Cycle: spectral granular synthesizer
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- KVRian
- 905 posts since 1 Mar, 2007
Is this synth using samples as impulse models or is it actually playing the samples? The guitar and horn sounds on this sound fantastic. Definitely going to be checking more of this out. The hybrid type instruments are quite good and I'm starting to like the synth sounds this thing produces.
- KVRAF
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Neither - it's purely a synthesiser - the reference sample is just so you can copy patterns in the sample using Cycle's drawing tools - it doesn't 'play' the sample, nor does it resynthesise it, although it's been hinted some form of resynthesis might come in a future version.
http://www.amaranthaudio.com/help/samples.php
http://www.amaranthaudio.com/help/samples.php
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- KVRist
- 272 posts since 27 May, 2013 from Leesburg, VA
Yup, it looks like you can copy a "pattern" say from the time domain, the phase spectrum or from the "harmonic magnitude spectrum", which sounds like either making a direct image of a portion of the sample itself or a limited kind of resynthesis. I tried to do this with the trial version but couldn't get any sound and didn't pursue it further
- KVRAF
- 14983 posts since 13 Nov, 2012
It is intriguing, I wonder if it ever goes on sale.EvilDragon wrote:Sounds really awesome to me, especially the distorted sounds! I'm interested in how it LOOKS, too.
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- KVRAF
- 1637 posts since 21 Dec, 2012
It was on sale
What I have heard from the developer in version 2, he will include image synthesis (loading photo data)
My videos about the factory presets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbXesOFwtH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-OLAYNab2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiCodGYuGG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-B8q5W5dSY
What I have heard from the developer in version 2, he will include image synthesis (loading photo data)
My videos about the factory presets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbXesOFwtH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-OLAYNab2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiCodGYuGG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-B8q5W5dSY
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
So got round to installing Cycle Beat version (LE)
The one thing I can see is missing straight away from the full version, is the morph function, and mod matrix too
But still there is a lot of stuff included, will take some time to get my head properly around it
The one thing I can see is missing straight away from the full version, is the morph function, and mod matrix too
But still there is a lot of stuff included, will take some time to get my head properly around it
- Banned
- 771 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from Ableton Suite 9 and Reaper
wut there is a beat version?Numanoid wrote:So got round to installing Cycle Beat version (LE)
The one thing I can see is missing straight away from the full version, is the morph function, and mod matrix too
But still there is a lot of stuff included, will take some time to get my head properly around it
hmm i need to get this for real.
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- KVRAF
- 7802 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Granular examples?
Seems strange to me that this thread use to be titled just as the youtube sets as 'Spectral Synthesizer' and seems to have been changed to add 'granular' to the thread only upon the announcement of the Alchemy site closure. So more examples of this 'added' feature would be nice.
Seems strange to me that this thread use to be titled just as the youtube sets as 'Spectral Synthesizer' and seems to have been changed to add 'granular' to the thread only upon the announcement of the Alchemy site closure. So more examples of this 'added' feature would be nice.
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Better to get the real thing if you have the money I think.Ameyah Audio wrote:wut there is a beat version?
hmm i need to get this for real.
It doesn't look like one can import samples (waveforms, images or anything like that).
You get to play around with the presets, can fool around with pulling the points on the graph, and add some effects.
And you can save the doodlings, or even start afresh with an init preset.
But in the end it doesn't look like to be much more than a "Player Version" of Cycle.
It doesn't even have a filter section
- Banned
- 771 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from Ableton Suite 9 and Reaper
pretty skint, just bought new plugins hmm will see.Numanoid wrote:Better to get the real thing if you have the money I think.Ameyah Audio wrote:wut there is a beat version?
hmm i need to get this for real.
It doesn't look like one can import samples (waveforms, images or anything like that).
You get to play around with the presets, can fool around with pulling the points on the graph, and add some effects.
And you can save the doodlings, or even start afresh with an init preset.
But in the end it doesn't look like to be much more than a "Player Version" of Cycle.
It doesn't even have a filter section
- KVRist
- 280 posts since 29 Nov, 2014 from Germany
I didn`t give up and checked it out all again. On the Beat DVD there are 2 versions 1 for Win and 1 for Mac. I installed the right one, but for reasons I don`t understand it doesn`t work on my PC. I also installed the Cycle Beat Version on my laptop and there it works finewerp wrote:Cycle: mac version (yosemite) works just fine with Logic Pro X and stand alone.
That`s very strange, because both PC and laptop are Windows 7. On the laptop Cycle works, but on the PC it doesn`t work no matter what I try. I´m afraid that I can`t solve this problem, but I`m happy that it runs at least on my laptop now.
Concerning the Beat version: Hm, I don`t know if it is really a full version (as promised), because I haven`t had the time for to check it out until now.
Simplicity without a name, is free from all external aim. With no desire, at rest and still,
all things go right as of their will.
Daodejing verse 37
all things go right as of their will.
Daodejing verse 37
- Banned
- 771 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from Ableton Suite 9 and Reaper
i ahd similar problem witheh demo installer, it was all installing fine on my notebook on the big desktop the installer installed it, but i couldnt open the vst in my DAW. it was really strange, but then after some cleaning i got it working, maybe some waindows patches got in the way.Mojo42 wrote:I didn`t give up and checked it out all again. On the Beat DVD there are 2 versions 1 for Win and 1 for Mac. I installed the right one, but for reasons I don`t understand it doesn`t work on my PC. I also installed the Cycle Beat Version on my laptop and there it works finewerp wrote:Cycle: mac version (yosemite) works just fine with Logic Pro X and stand alone.
That`s very strange, because both PC and laptop are Windows 7. On the laptop Cycle works, but on the PC it doesn`t work no matter what I try. I´m afraid that I can`t solve this problem, but I`m happy that it runs at least on my laptop now.
Concerning the Beat version: Hm, I don`t know if it is really a full version (as promised), because I haven`t had the time for to check it out until now.
there are some things left out from the Beat version like already mentioned the Morph-feature, the sample input and also the Filter Distortion if i got this right, but you can still create your own patches and get crzay with the waveform create (i will call it that), i had some fun playing with this yesterday, i liked, cycle got a really agressive sound, really synthestic. when i have some money left - i will buy it.
- KVRist
- 280 posts since 29 Nov, 2014 from Germany
Yep, that`s exactly my problem too although the CicleBE.dll is definitely installed at the plugin folder of my DAW.Ameyah Audio wrote: i ahd similar problem witheh demo installer, it was all installing fine on my notebook on the big desktop the installer installed it, but i couldnt open the vst in my DAW.
Aaaaaaaah good hint, thanks I tried a windows update first, because I supposed this maybe could be the reason, but the update didn`t help. I will try the cleaning now, hope this will help.Ameyah Audio wrote: it was really strange, but then after some cleaning i got it working, maybe some waindows patches got in the way.
Simplicity without a name, is free from all external aim. With no desire, at rest and still,
all things go right as of their will.
Daodejing verse 37
all things go right as of their will.
Daodejing verse 37
- KVRist
- 280 posts since 29 Nov, 2014 from Germany
Update: The cleaning didn`t help to solve the problem.
But the real strange thing is: When I installed Cycle first time I installed both the 64bit version and the 32bit version by accident. Later I found out that the DAW is only finding the 32bit version. I can open up the 32bit version in my DAW but I can`t use it because the cursor doesn`t work at all like I described at my earlier posts into this thread. I recognized my mistake, removed the 32bit version, because I need the 64bit version, but then I had the problem that the DAW wasn`t recognize Cycle at all. I just report this here for the case that someone else will have the same problems and maybe someone can find out how to solve it.
Because this Cycle Version was for free and because I can use it at least on my laptop I`m happy so far It is not the first Synthesizer I can only use on 1 of my 2 PC`s. For some you have to buy 2 licenses if you wish to use them on more than 1 PC and so: One has to make compromises LOL
But the real strange thing is: When I installed Cycle first time I installed both the 64bit version and the 32bit version by accident. Later I found out that the DAW is only finding the 32bit version. I can open up the 32bit version in my DAW but I can`t use it because the cursor doesn`t work at all like I described at my earlier posts into this thread. I recognized my mistake, removed the 32bit version, because I need the 64bit version, but then I had the problem that the DAW wasn`t recognize Cycle at all. I just report this here for the case that someone else will have the same problems and maybe someone can find out how to solve it.
Because this Cycle Version was for free and because I can use it at least on my laptop I`m happy so far It is not the first Synthesizer I can only use on 1 of my 2 PC`s. For some you have to buy 2 licenses if you wish to use them on more than 1 PC and so: One has to make compromises LOL
Simplicity without a name, is free from all external aim. With no desire, at rest and still,
all things go right as of their will.
Daodejing verse 37
all things go right as of their will.
Daodejing verse 37