Roadmap Changes :-)
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- KVRist
- 244 posts since 9 Apr, 2013 from Memphis, Ark.
Maybe I asked something similar before... but can it (arp) send 'voltage' to other parameters besides pitch? Can the arp output be combined with the rest of modulation options? (Quantize, random, lag, etc.) Multiply with lfo etc.
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- KVRAF
- 1622 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Paris, France
No way ?! This is awesome !sascha wrote:Erm... we're going down to 1.875 ips, if you don't mindK-Slash wrote: This is great, so finally a quality emulation of 3.75 IPS speed in a native plugin ?!
Sorry, not a native english speaker.sascha wrote:Should you be one of those early adopters stocking up yourself with chocolate Santas at the end of September, it's probably around Christmas for youK-Slash wrote: Is it to be expected before Christmas ?
Did you mean that it will be there before the end of the month ?!
I'm sold, I just bought it as I write ! Can't wait to get 1.1, and I hope you'll add note values on the GUI to the delay mode when synched.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 28067 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
spacecult wrote:Maybe I asked something similar before... but can it (arp) send 'voltage' to other parameters besides pitch? Can the arp output be combined with the rest of modulation options? (Quantize, random, lag, etc.) Multiply with lfo etc.
Not the arpeggiator - it really is all about playing chords as single notes, one by one, in (hopefully) interesting patterns.
Whatever we substitute the sequencer with will however also serve as a modulator. Clemens spent an hour on our Dark Times today. While not exactly suited for a plug-in, it's probably going to be a major source of inspiration.
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- KVRian
- 867 posts since 26 Jul, 2009
so i think i might've predicted the release of the big Diva update right : xmas 2013.
that would mark the 2nd anniversary of this milestone softsynth and a nice xmas gift indeed.
that would mark the 2nd anniversary of this milestone softsynth and a nice xmas gift indeed.
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 15 Dec, 2011
Please don't drop the sequencer entirely. How about just a basic sequencer with note, pitch, gate...note selection from a graphic keyboard with the ability to change the transposition by keyboard controller while playing?.....maybe?Urs wrote:spacecult wrote:Maybe I asked something similar before... but can it (arp) send 'voltage' to other parameters besides pitch? Can the arp output be combined with the rest of modulation options? (Quantize, random, lag, etc.) Multiply with lfo etc.
Not the arpeggiator - it really is all about playing chords as single notes, one by one, in (hopefully) interesting patterns.
Whatever we substitute the sequencer with will however also serve as a modulator. Clemens spent an hour on our Dark Times today. While not exactly suited for a plug-in, it's probably going to be a major source of inspiration.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 28067 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
That's why I use the word "substitute" - we'll find something else that does the job. Key transposed sequences are the core of this.richardb09 wrote:Please don't drop the sequencer entirely. How about just a basic sequencer with note, pitch, gate...note selection from a graphic keyboard with the ability to change the transposition by keyboard controller while playing?.....maybe?Urs wrote:Whatever we substitute the sequencer with will however also serve as a modulator. Clemens spent an hour on our Dark Times today. While not exactly suited for a plug-in, it's probably going to be a major source of inspiration.
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 15 Dec, 2011
Great. looking forward to what you guys come up with?Urs wrote:That's why I use the word "substitute" - we'll find something else that does the job. Key transposed sequences are the core of this.richardb09 wrote:Please don't drop the sequencer entirely. How about just a basic sequencer with note, pitch, gate...note selection from a graphic keyboard with the ability to change the transposition by keyboard controller while playing?.....maybe?Urs wrote:Whatever we substitute the sequencer with will however also serve as a modulator. Clemens spent an hour on our Dark Times today. While not exactly suited for a plug-in, it's probably going to be a major source of inspiration.
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- KVRAF
- 5202 posts since 6 May, 2002
What about the ability to type input values directly?Urs wrote:Sascha argues, -/+20 dB is too much for the output - it makes adjustments too coarse.electro wrote:What are the 1.1 changes besides bugfixing? Can the Ouput gain increase to -20/+20 db?Urs wrote:Everyone is working on Satin 1.1 and Clemens and I are making progress with AAX - big time.
Intel Core2 Quad CPU + 4 GIG RAM
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 15 Dec, 2011
Are the core of the problem? Or the core of which you are building everything on?Urs wrote:That's why I use the word "substitute" - we'll find something else that does the job. Key transposed sequences are the core of this.richardb09 wrote:Please don't drop the sequencer entirely. How about just a basic sequencer with note, pitch, gate...note selection from a graphic keyboard with the ability to change the transposition by keyboard controller while playing?.....maybe?Urs wrote:Whatever we substitute the sequencer with will however also serve as a modulator. Clemens spent an hour on our Dark Times today. While not exactly suited for a plug-in, it's probably going to be a major source of inspiration.
- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 11 Dec, 2008 from Minneapolis
Dunno where DIVA's sequencer was going, but I think I've seen where 'complex' goes with Numerology and Max4Live sequencers. It's powerful, but not in the immediate way DIVA is, so - sounds like a tough but sensible decision IMHO. (Still curious about the deluxe sequencer - I'm sure there are great ideas there)
My favorite immediate step-sequence-y thing is Uhbik-T actually. The grid doesn't just hold multiple patterns, but can lead to related patterns generated while playing through, and ends up very musical. For actual MIDI sequencing, I really like Monolake's PX-18 ( page ) which, in a very different way with a 'bar' parameter that mutes a step during some plays of the pattern, also is more about evolving variations during play-through. (PX-18 lacks a lot of polish and a few features, but it's productive ... at least fun ).
Both also have some sense of a macro control of gating ... too many macro controls become less immediate, distract from perfectly good parameters that are already there, but time and maybe velocity are powerful and immediate enough to justify IMHO.
Obviously the bar is set high for DIVA (:love:) but a DIVA sequence, ju ne sais quoi, should be amazing.
My favorite immediate step-sequence-y thing is Uhbik-T actually. The grid doesn't just hold multiple patterns, but can lead to related patterns generated while playing through, and ends up very musical. For actual MIDI sequencing, I really like Monolake's PX-18 ( page ) which, in a very different way with a 'bar' parameter that mutes a step during some plays of the pattern, also is more about evolving variations during play-through. (PX-18 lacks a lot of polish and a few features, but it's productive ... at least fun ).
Both also have some sense of a macro control of gating ... too many macro controls become less immediate, distract from perfectly good parameters that are already there, but time and maybe velocity are powerful and immediate enough to justify IMHO.
Obviously the bar is set high for DIVA (:love:) but a DIVA sequence, ju ne sais quoi, should be amazing.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 28067 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
core featurerichardb09 wrote:Are the core of the problem? Or the core of which you are building everything on?
- KVRian
- 1193 posts since 6 Jul, 2005
I would third this... although a sequencer sounds nice it is (in my opinion at least) not worth holding up a release with the new osc/filter for... especially as it sounds like the sequencer concept needs an overhaul.DavidEkl wrote:Seconded. I want to play with the new osc, and a new osc really feels like a 1.3, and then the new sequencer another up, like 1.4 atleast, but 1.5 / 2.0 would be justified as it is a significant feature affecting the whole thingnilhartman wrote:Or you could release it as 1.3 without the sequencer, and as 1.4 when it's ready ? Or 1.25 then 1.3, I don't know which criterias determine your version nomenclature.Urs wrote: Clemens and I are toying with the idea of releasing a current build as preview/beta *without* sequencer. The idea is to release something while we're still fixing a few issues and gui in the background. The final V1.3 would of course have the seqeuncer put back in.
IMO the new osc and filters alone are already a great update/add-on : I'd already be extremely happy to play with the new components !
Just my 1c.
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- KVRAF
- 5202 posts since 6 May, 2002
I've been looking for a 64bit Analog Style MIDI Step Sequencerxh3rv wrote:My favorite immediate step-sequence-y thing is Uhbik-T actually. The grid doesn't just hold multiple patterns, but can lead to related patterns generated while playing through, and ends up very musical. For actual MIDI sequencing, I really like Monolake's PX-18 ( page ) which, in a very different way with a 'bar' parameter that mutes a step during some plays of the pattern, also is more about evolving variations during play-through. (PX-18 lacks a lot of polish and a few features, but it's productive ... at least fun ).
Intel Core2 Quad CPU + 4 GIG RAM
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- KVRist
- 224 posts since 23 Aug, 2011
I shall fourth this, I'm dying to try the new oscs and filter!taoyoyo wrote:I would third this... although a sequencer sounds nice it is (in my opinion at least) not worth holding up a release with the new osc/filter for... especially as it sounds like the sequencer concept needs an overhaul.DavidEkl wrote:Seconded. I want to play with the new osc, and a new osc really feels like a 1.3, and then the new sequencer another up, like 1.4 atleast, but 1.5 / 2.0 would be justified as it is a significant feature affecting the whole thingnilhartman wrote:Or you could release it as 1.3 without the sequencer, and as 1.4 when it's ready ? Or 1.25 then 1.3, I don't know which criterias determine your version nomenclature.Urs wrote: Clemens and I are toying with the idea of releasing a current build as preview/beta *without* sequencer. The idea is to release something while we're still fixing a few issues and gui in the background. The final V1.3 would of course have the seqeuncer put back in.
IMO the new osc and filters alone are already a great update/add-on : I'd already be extremely happy to play with the new components !
Just my 1c.
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- KVRist
- 73 posts since 2 Feb, 2013 from Vancouver
Me five, I'm more interest in oscillators than sequencers, personally. OTOH I have an eBay JP-8000 in the mail...virtualmark wrote:I shall fourth this, I'm dying to try the new oscs and filter!taoyoyo wrote:I would third this... although a sequencer sounds nice it is (in my opinion at least) not worth holding up a release with the new osc/filter for... especially as it sounds like the sequencer concept needs an overhaul.DavidEkl wrote:Seconded. I want to play with the new osc, and a new osc really feels like a 1.3, and then the new sequencer another up, like 1.4 atleast, but 1.5 / 2.0 would be justified as it is a significant feature affecting the whole thingnilhartman wrote:Or you could release it as 1.3 without the sequencer, and as 1.4 when it's ready ? Or 1.25 then 1.3, I don't know which criterias determine your version nomenclature.Urs wrote: Clemens and I are toying with the idea of releasing a current build as preview/beta *without* sequencer. The idea is to release something while we're still fixing a few issues and gui in the background. The final V1.3 would of course have the seqeuncer put back in.
IMO the new osc and filters alone are already a great update/add-on : I'd already be extremely happy to play with the new components !
Just my 1c.