Hi All
If you could choose between Harmor and Toxic Biohazard what would you choose and why? Is there any place i can buy Toxic Biohard cheaper than off the image line website?
Much Appreciated!!
Regards
Please help me decide between imageline Harmor or Toxic
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 308 posts since 9 Jul, 2008 from SOUTH AFRICA
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- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Your one day late, in the second-hand charity I think a new licencse for Toxic BH got sold for $10 yesterday, lucky winnerTB4C wrote:Is there any place i can buy Toxic Biohard cheaper than off the image line website?
EDIT, No I see now that it went for $45, but still a great price for such a good plug
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- KVRian
- 1383 posts since 1 May, 2010
Actually it's apple and orange. Toxic and sytrus is still close but this one isn't.
Harmor is additive synthesis, while toxic is fm. Of course they have other editing capability added.
So for me it depends on which synthesis you're familiar or want to learn with.
Harmor is additive synthesis, while toxic is fm. Of course they have other editing capability added.
So for me it depends on which synthesis you're familiar or want to learn with.
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- KVRian
- 1494 posts since 13 Sep, 2012
I like Harmor; Toxic Bio...not so much (agreed though, they've very different synths). However I love Toxic 2 
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- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Musician Friend also have had quite a few sales on the boxed version of Toxic BH, costing just $39.
They might do a sale again?
They might do a sale again?
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- KVRAF
- 7365 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I don't particularly like either of them. I have Toxic but I never use it. Harmor is fairly confusing; once in a while I'll use Harmless but it's not in my top ten.
My favorite IL synth is actually Ogun -- it's not a bread and butter synth by any means, but it sounds fairly unique.
Morphine is decent too, for additive with a different feel from others.
My favorite IL synth is actually Ogun -- it's not a bread and butter synth by any means, but it sounds fairly unique.
Morphine is decent too, for additive with a different feel from others.
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- KVRAF
- 2822 posts since 14 Feb, 2001 from What do you care? :)
Toxic is kind of long in the tooth, but I still like it. I really like how it sits inside a decent reverb. Especially if you can find a good price, it might be one to consider.
Harmor is a bit more involved to program, but it also has a nice big sound. Of the two, I think it might give you a broader palette to explore over the longer run and you can also mess around with e.g. the picture into sound stuff.
Hard to say in terms of FM vs. additive.
In terms of sales... MF most likely will have it on sale again. Just have to keep an eye out and watch their daily/hourly specials as well (that is, if you have the time for that sort of thing!).
I should add that Image Line is also sold by AudioDeluxe. I've found that they tend to have some decent prices, but you will have to set up an account with them to get even better (sometimes) than what's posted here:
http://audiodeluxe.com/search/apachesol ... age%20line
Also JRRShop has good prices.
Harmor is a bit more involved to program, but it also has a nice big sound. Of the two, I think it might give you a broader palette to explore over the longer run and you can also mess around with e.g. the picture into sound stuff.
Hard to say in terms of FM vs. additive.
In terms of sales... MF most likely will have it on sale again. Just have to keep an eye out and watch their daily/hourly specials as well (that is, if you have the time for that sort of thing!).
I should add that Image Line is also sold by AudioDeluxe. I've found that they tend to have some decent prices, but you will have to set up an account with them to get even better (sometimes) than what's posted here:
http://audiodeluxe.com/search/apachesol ... age%20line
Also JRRShop has good prices.
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- Banned
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
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- Banned
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
That's if you would ask: "Should I buy a t-shirt or jeans?"
As said, Toxic is a subtractive synth with FM and Harmor is an additive synth.
I have both of them.
Toxic is especially good for leads, keys, bass and metallic sounds (for FM stuff) while Harmor is great for deep pads and atmospheres.
Harmor is pretty complicate to program, Toxic is much easier...
As said, Toxic is a subtractive synth with FM and Harmor is an additive synth.
I have both of them.
Toxic is especially good for leads, keys, bass and metallic sounds (for FM stuff) while Harmor is great for deep pads and atmospheres.
Harmor is pretty complicate to program, Toxic is much easier...
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- KVRAF
- 5813 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
I own both and like Harmor more.
This small track I produced completely with Harmor (except drums).
https://soundcloud.com/52degree/frank-arnold-harmor
This small track I produced completely with Harmor (except drums).
https://soundcloud.com/52degree/frank-arnold-harmor
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- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Harmor features are great, but presets are very poor, almost all trying to do substractive stuff. It desperately needs a patch bank that shows it's true potential.
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
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- KVRAF
- 5813 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
Harmor shines IMO for all kind of pluck and unison sounds, because it's very easy to program (you have a own "pluck" knob so it don't needs some mapping of a filter envelope etc). Not to mention that (IMO all IL synth) having this a bit darker/analog sound.
Such sounds can be created in a very, very short time (it needs a minute or so for this sound). A bit automation of the "pluck" parameter and it gives a very interesting bass/arp sound: Harmor Pluck (not mixed)
Such sounds can be created in a very, very short time (it needs a minute or so for this sound). A bit automation of the "pluck" parameter and it gives a very interesting bass/arp sound: Harmor Pluck (not mixed)
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
That's interesting...4damind wrote:Harmor shines IMO for all kind of pluck and unison sounds, because it's very easy to program (you have a own "pluck" knob so it don't needs some mapping of a filter envelope etc). Not to mention that (IMO all IL synth) having this a bit darker/analog sound.
Such sounds can be created in a very, very short time (it needs a minute or so for this sound). A bit automation of the "pluck" parameter and it gives a very interesting bass/arp sound: Harmor Pluck (not mixed)
For arps & plucks I would rather have used Toxic than Morphine... I never thought about making these kind of sounds with Morphine...
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- KVRAF
- 16402 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
We have Harmor on a special secret sale (only 4 available) when you enter coupon code "Harmor59":
http://www.jrrshop.com/image-line-harmo ... ad-license
We also have a few Toxic Biohazard's in stock that I could sell for $39. Personally, I prefer Harmor, it just sounds better to me.
http://www.jrrshop.com/image-line-harmo ... ad-license
We also have a few Toxic Biohazard's in stock that I could sell for $39. Personally, I prefer Harmor, it just sounds better to me.
