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The choir experiment "Scarborough fair"; feedback wanted

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Gucky
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1547 posts since 26 Sep, 2004

Postby Gucky; Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:20 am The choir experiment "Scarborough fair"; feedback wanted

Today I finshed an choir experiment.
A friend of mine sings "Scrabough fair" five times and I tried to make a kind of gregorian choir with it. At the end I added a female voice.

Here is the result:
https://soundcloud.com/musikus/scarborough-fair

I would be happy about your feedback. :-)
Harry_HH
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842 posts since 4 Aug, 2006, from Helsinki

Postby Harry_HH; Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:07 am Re: The choir experiment "Scarborough fair"; feedback wanted

The melody of this piece is so strong and extraordinary (dorian mode) that I would
leave the instrumental part as minimal as possible - a capella is of course the ultimate from this point of view. We all know Simon & Garfunkel´s version of this old traditional. One of my countryman made his version about 20 years ago and made it very well, I think. Although the lyrics here are translated in Finnish, you can hear how he treated the harmony. Note also the use of reverb, its brilliant. I think that in addition to making the instrumental more clear/simple, in yourt version I would change the reverb, creating more variation in it and by using less hall-type, too lush reverb. H.

P.s. If the youtube doesn´t download in your country, if you are interested in the music example, you should find it in the Skype: Pave Maijanen, Lilja, ruusu, kirsikkapuu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNmxjKZeiSQ
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Gucky
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1547 posts since 26 Sep, 2004

Postby Gucky; Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:33 am Re: The choir experiment "Scarborough fair"; feedback wanted

Hi Harry_HH,
unfortunately I cannot see the the youtube video.
It is blocked in germany. :-)
But you are right there was something wrong with the reverb.
I changed it now and uploaded the new version.
By the way: The vocal recordings were made with a very cheap mp3 recorder.
So the voices cannot be perfect.
What do you think? Does it now sounds better?
Harry_HH
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842 posts since 4 Aug, 2006, from Helsinki

Postby Harry_HH; Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:50 am Re: The choir experiment "Scarborough fair"; feedback wanted

Gucky wrote:Hi Harry_HH,
unfortunately I cannot see the the youtube video.
It is blocked in germany. :-)
But you are right there was something wrong with the reverb.
I changed it now and uploaded the new version.
By the way: The vocal recordings were made with a very cheap mp3 recorder.
So the voices cannot be perfect.
What do you think? Does it now sounds better?



Hi, I added (see above) more information about my example.
While you mentioned the mp3 recorder, this is more likely for the reason of the "muddy" vocal I mentioned, more than the reverb. Of course all depends on your ambition level and your target, but I would concentrate on recording the vocals with a good DAW, with a decent mike and in the reasonable good environment - all the other treatment comes after this (your vocal arrangement is, of course, the core thing). H.
Last edited by Harry_HH on Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
Gucky
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1547 posts since 26 Sep, 2004

Postby Gucky; Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:23 am Re: The choir experiment "Scarborough fair"; feedback wanted

Hi Harry_HH,
many thanks for your help. :-)
As I said it was intended as an experiment: is it possible to make a choir with only one voice?
Normally I make electronic music.
Your are right that the voice is a little bit muddy. The reason was the mp3 recorder and that I made the mistake that the distance between singer and recorder was too big.
Maybe that I will make a new recording in the next time.
Gucky
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1547 posts since 26 Sep, 2004

Postby Gucky; Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:55 am Re: The choir experiment "Scarborough fair"; feedback wanted

I just had a little time to hear the song again.
And now I noticed that some things are wrong in mastering.
So I made now a new version:
I hope that it sounds now more natural.
What do you think?
Gucky
KVRAF
 
1547 posts since 26 Sep, 2004

Postby Gucky; Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:08 pm Re: The choir experiment "Scarborough fair"; feedback wanted

Hmmh, after a pause of a few days I hear now that the song was still a little bit muddy.
So I tried a new version. The choir has now more bass and warmth:
https://soundcloud.com/musikus/scarborough-fair

I would be happy about your feedback. :-)
Last edited by Gucky on Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
Gucky
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1547 posts since 26 Sep, 2004

Postby Gucky; Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:26 am Re: The choir experiment "Scarborough fair"; feedback wanted

Bump for your feedback! :-)

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