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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:28 pm

So which multi-instrumentalist unit do you prefer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9IagAg7u5M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtkZxnkbjtI

ksandvik · Post by **ksandvik** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:42 pm

Well, Karen Carpenter was quite an accomplished musician compared with most of the pop singers today.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:45 pm

not a huge fan of either really
both have done odd bits that i enjoy but neither are on my regular playlist

bob bobwood · Post by **bob bobwood** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:55 pm

Now if it was; Carpenters Vs. Zappa Vs. Roy Castle, we'd have a debate on our hands.

dea-man · Post by **dea-man** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:56 pm

Love them both equally for their various strengths and talents.

That said, the Carpenters had some amazing lessons for me as far as arranging things goes.

Zappa was all about a high level of musicianship and creativity.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:56 pm

Numanoid wrote:So which multi-instrumentalist unit do you prefer?

Kanye West.

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Tue May 26, 2015 9:02 pm

zappa , by a nose ...

Zombie Queen · Post by **Zombie Queen** » Wed May 27, 2015 10:04 am

experimental.crow wrote:zappa , by a nose ...

And moustache!

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Wed May 27, 2015 10:49 am

Great to see Karen in full flesh - and sad to know how the show biz manipulated her to distroy herself. Carpenters were talented, one of the best in their genre ("white sweet pop").
The video example of the Zappa is not the most representative to demonstrate his multi-skills: composer, arranger, solo-guitarist, vocalist, band-leader, score-writer, showmanship, multigenremixer, well...hustler etc.

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Wed May 27, 2015 12:43 pm

Zappa is easily one of the most accomplished, and influential, musicians of the century. I respected Karen Carpenter and would compare her to a different pop performer. Zappa deserves comparison to classical composers, guitarists, band leaders (Miles Davis for example), who cycled through musicians and began many a storied music career, etc. He is the single greatest musician of my generation (baby boomers) imo.

bibz1st · Post by **bibz1st** » Wed May 27, 2015 12:47 pm

And he gave us that immortal line (amongst many)
"Broken hearts are for assholes"

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed May 27, 2015 12:58 pm

Gonga wrote:Zappa is easily one of the most accomplished, and influential, musicians of the century. I respected Karen Carpenter and would compare her to a different pop performer. Zappa deserves comparison to classical composers, guitarists, band leaders (Miles Davis for example), who cycled through musicians and began many a storied music career, etc. He is the single greatest musician of my generation (baby boomers) imo.

Karen Carpenter was a pro musician, but there were more than one Carpenter.

Richard Carpenter I would call a genius arranger, and in addition somebody who excelled at the piano.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed May 27, 2015 1:00 pm

Harry_HH wrote: The video example of the Zappa is not the most representative to demonstrate his multi-skills: composer, arranger, solo-guitarist, vocalist, band-leader, score-writer, showmanship, multigenremixer, well...hustler etc.

The only clip I could find of the Black Page on youtube with him, the rest was Zappa plays Zappa...

Zappa excelled in many areas, but I wish he wouldn't play guitar, I just can't stand his soloing.

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Wed May 27, 2015 5:04 pm

Numanoid wrote:
Harry_HH wrote: The video example of the Zappa is not the most representative to demonstrate his multi-skills: composer, arranger, solo-guitarist, vocalist, band-leader, score-writer, showmanship, multigenremixer, well...hustler etc.
The only clip I could find of the Black Page on youtube with him, the rest was Zappa plays Zappa...

Zappa excelled in many areas, but I wish he wouldn't play guitar, I just can't stand his soloing.

shut up ...

PurpleCatfishBettie · Thu May 28, 2015 12:04 am

back in the day, there was this cat in the neighborhood; and he wore his hair/beard just like frank zappa, and played a gibson sg, and copied 'all' of the zappa riffs. the guy didn't care for jimmy page's playing ('phrasing was off' or somesuch), but thought that zappa was the bees knees. i can still remember he and his friends crashing a keggar, and playing 'mr. green genes'.