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Motion · Post by **Motion** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:07 pm

http://www.exponentialaudio.com/latest- ... 82mHzsYz8s

Tasty!

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:12 pm

I''ve listened of a few demo, what do you think ?

more conventional than adaptiverb but much more CPU friendly, it tries to be more instantly usuable for producer, both pre-delay and RT60 delay time being tempo based, compression/expansion, tail suppression, tail recovery, etc..., many hints here and there to make it more musician friendly as far as i can judge

nothing really new, but an intelligent conception...

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P.S. having opened a same topic i just reported it to be deleted, no need for it...

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:38 pm

Hmm.. I'm not so sure about this one. Many of Michaels reverbs are very "samey" sounding.. or have a very specific type of sound. Don't get me wrong, they all sound wonderful but do I need another one? I don't think so.

Besides, I already have most of my reverb sends preloaded with FabFilter Pro-MB for the exact purposes of tailoring the reverb with either compression or expansion. I also always have a spare Pro-Q 2 on each send so that I can either EQ the reverb signal or the incoming signal before reverb (for plugins like U-He Protoverb that really benefit from some input filtering). I also have a tendency of adding D16 Decimort on some reverbs..

.. basically this means I'm already doing all of these things and because I own Phoenix, I don't really see any use for Nimbus, unless the upgrade pricing is too good to pass on.

Cheers!
bManic

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:50 pm

Hmmm..
he had the Phoenixverb and the R2...
Which don't sound anything like each other, and certainly to my ears the algorithms within each do sound different... or do you mean his lexicon days or do you mean...?

rsp

jens · Post by **jens** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:01 pm

I was wondering the same too - it certainly sounds like he has already been releasing several more reverb plugins than those two he actually really did... "sound very samey or have a very specific type of sound" is most certainly not at all possible with two plugins... (or even three)

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:21 pm

I do mean his two plug-ins.. now soon to be 3 plug-ins. So I disagree then. R2 is definitely not as different from Phoenix as say VVV from Valhalla Room.. in my opinion.

Nimbus seems to be more of the same.. though to be fair, he even says it's based on Phoenix. So yeah.. I'm not seeing the value here.

Arrested Developer · Post by **Arrested Developer** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:23 pm

The examples on the homepage are brillant, like everything from Exponential Audio...

jens · Post by **jens** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:44 pm

bmanic wrote:I do mean his two plug-ins.. now soon to be 3 plug-ins. So I disagree then. R2 is definitely not as different from Phoenix as say VVV from Valhalla Room.. in my opinion.

Nimbus seems to be more of the same.. though to be fair, he even says it's based on Phoenix. So yeah.. I'm not seeing the value here.

hm... but you said "Many of Michaels reverbs are very "samey" sounding.. or have a very specific type of Sound"

samey sounding = at least 2

or very specific sounding = at least another one (3)

but "many of" (which refers to the previous - at the very least - three) means not all of them, so = at least another one (4)

which logically means at least four altogether, and even then it would still seem like a strange statement...

sorry, bmanic, I usually really like enjoy your posts, but you'll have to admit that this one really doesn't make much sense...

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:23 pm

bmanic wrote:I do mean his two plug-ins.. now soon to be 3 plug-ins. So I disagree then. R2 is definitely not as different from Phoenix as say VVV from Valhalla Room.. in my opinion.

Nimbus seems to be more of the same.. though to be fair, he even says it's based on Phoenix. So yeah.. I'm not seeing the value here.

Hmmm

I often agree with your 'ears'.. Not this time.
I find R2 and phoenixverb very very different, I actually after buying both for PC tried to see if I could get away with only one on the mac to save me money but ended up buying both.
I haven't found an instance where they sound alike, or that I could substitute one for the other without radically changing the sound.
I use phoenixverb all the time, because I sense it more than hear it..That is it sounds very natural, it blends in the background more to me, and its when I turn it off I hear it more than when I turn it on.....
Whereas R2 sounds more like a Lexicon. I use it when I want to Hear the reverb. I don't want it to blend in, I want to hear the presence of the reverb.
rsp

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:08 pm

zvenx wrote: I use phoenixverb all the time, because I sense it more than hear it..That is it sounds very natural, it blends in the background more to me, and its when I turn it off I hear it more than when I turn it on.....
Whereas R2 sounds more like a Lexicon. I use it when I want to Hear the reverb. I don't want it to blend in, I want to hear the presence of the reverb.
rsp

This would be my experience too, quite different. From what I gather Nimbus is based on the Phoenix engine not a copy of it with extra compression/filters etc

audiosabre · Post by **audiosabre** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:22 pm

I'm interested only if there's a fair upgrade price from PhoenixVerb.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:55 pm

Not sure why this is a new reverb and not just an evolution of Phoenix Verb which is what it appears to be.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:11 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Not sure why this is a new reverb and not just an evolution of Phoenix Verb which is what it appears to be.

I agree with you in spirit on this, but I suspect.
1. for backward projects compatibility.
2. maybe the upgrade will be generous enough to make this mostly a non issue.
3. it allows phoenix to be a cheaper entry level into what for me are the best software reverbs.

rsp

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:47 pm

audiosabre wrote:I'm interested only if there's a fair upgrade price from PhoenixVerb.

There always is and if you own a bundle you can always upgrade that too. NB if you don't see your bundle upgrade , shoot Michael an email, I got a crazy deal the last time. He does reward existing customers fairly.

Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:44 am

Tail suppression is nice, but indeed, nothing new about Nimbus. I'm hurrying back to Zynaptiq Adaptiverb. Still mystified.

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