Not on realtime signals it didn'taMUSEd wrote:So does Alchemy, so did Cameleon too actually
Eventide "Structural Effects"
- KVRAF
- 9578 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Amazon: why not use an alternative
- KVRAF
- 6245 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
separate outputs ?DJ Warmonger wrote:Very interesting concept, new to me. Another thing on want list.
Yes, but you shoudl be able to use empty effect chain just to strip transient or body for further processing in your own chainpekbro wrote:Well this seems interesting, I cant help but think they might
have missed an opportunity to build in some more interesting
effects here though. Granular maybe, or some other kinds of re-synthesis...
- KVRAF
- 35299 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Well yes, but internally generated by their own oscs (ie not effects)VariKusBrainZ wrote:Not on realtime signals it didn'taMUSEd wrote:So does Alchemy, so did Cameleon too actually
- KVRAF
- 9810 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
shonky wrote:Could you not do this in Ableton with effect racks - run two chains, one with the transient, one with the sustain, add different fx after each? Certainly a greater variety of options post-split...
From what I saw in the video, yes you could. I didn't see anything special other than the visual feedback, which you can create if you are using Live's gate effect... but of course then you will only see one gate effect at a time.
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- KVRian
- 1077 posts since 21 Nov, 2005
That's exactly how I did it, great minds think alike I guesselxsound wrote:shonky wrote:Could you not do this in Ableton with effect racks - run two chains, one with the transient, one with the sustain, add different fx after each? Certainly a greater variety of options post-split...
From what I saw in the video, yes you could. I didn't see anything special other than the visual feedback, which you can create if you are using Live's gate effect... but of course then you will only see one gate effect at a time.
Thinking about it, you could do exactly what Transgressor does too if you stick an eq after each, necessity being the mother of invention for the broke-ass music maker.
- KVRAF
- 1724 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from betwixt
Been doing that for a couple years. Used NI Transient master on each of the chains in the rack. So yes.shonky wrote:Could you not do this in Ableton with effect racks - run two chains, one with the transient, one with the sustain, add different fx after each? Certainly a greater variety of options post-split...
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- Topic Starter
- 2475 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK
Ah man, I reeeally wanted to be a bit more excited about this.. so they've developed/enhanced some FFT/PV code to spilt the sound (which we can already to with other technology, but not in realtime (is Falcon an effect or just a synth?)) in to Trans/Noise/Tone and dumped some time-domain effects in there?
Perhaps the actual resynthesis of the raw sound is more interesting if you muck around with the ...nope, there's nothing to muck around with.
Maybe this is the first in a line of never-before-seen sound-£uckery tools, and they're just testing the water with this..
Perhaps the actual resynthesis of the raw sound is more interesting if you muck around with the ...nope, there's nothing to muck around with.
Maybe this is the first in a line of never-before-seen sound-£uckery tools, and they're just testing the water with this..
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- KVRian
- 509 posts since 10 Aug, 2004
Yes, apparently, this is the first plugin in the new series. More to come...CinningBao wrote:Maybe this is the first in a line of never-before-seen sound-£uckery tools, and they're just testing the water with this..
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- KVRian
- 963 posts since 29 Sep, 2006
But sounds very different.aMUSEd wrote:Looks uncannily close to Unfiltered Audio plugin designsdayjob wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI-X-DdXZAg
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- KVRAF
- 4082 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
I haven't seen anything there that couldn't be done with the built in bigwig effects. It could also be done on a very in depth level in MXXX. Or guitar rig 1. Or basically anything that will let you split a signal and then process each stream. The only remotely tricky part is setting up the dynamic processors so they recombine properly. Many gates or transient designer type effects will output the difference signal.
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- KVRist
- 443 posts since 12 Feb, 2004
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2475 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK
- KVRist
- 443 posts since 12 Feb, 2004
Just been using Fission, really great stuff, its superbly cool...I'm hooked Looking very forward to see whats next for their Structural Effects.
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- KVRian
- 641 posts since 26 May, 2008 from Iceland.
Some serious fun to be had indeed, the preset Blackholish will turn a detuned saw wave into Blade runner pad in an instantMotion wrote:Just been using Fission, really great stuff, its superbly cool...I'm hooked Looking very forward to see whats next for their Structural Effects.
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- KVRAF
- 16158 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
The artifacts created by the separation process are quite audible, but it sounds pretty good for real-time processing, the effects which can be applied to each source are very basic though, I like the tap delay, there should be some distortion/waveshaper/bitcrusher modes, granular effects, spectral effects, frequency modulation/ring modulation -> but that will probably be part of future releases.
At low buffer sizes (e.g. 128 samples) it's barely usable in Logic 10.3.1 on my super fast Mac Pro, so I set the buffer size to max (1024) in order to have a smooth demo experience.
Live on video experiment: processing a sequence played on my multi-sampled Stick Cello (cello played with drum sticks), tweaking things on the fly, checking out the various effects in each source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yLANLI-DIM
At low buffer sizes (e.g. 128 samples) it's barely usable in Logic 10.3.1 on my super fast Mac Pro, so I set the buffer size to max (1024) in order to have a smooth demo experience.
Live on video experiment: processing a sequence played on my multi-sampled Stick Cello (cello played with drum sticks), tweaking things on the fly, checking out the various effects in each source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yLANLI-DIM