Which Valhalla reverb is best suited for Ambient music?
- KVRAF
- 3426 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Pacific NW
How do the Tapco spring reverbs sound? I've seen a few rackmounted spring reverbs locally, but I've passed them up. I have the built in spring reverb in my Princeton Reverb, and several different spring tanks for an Intellijel Springray, for research purposes.ghettosynth wrote:90s home studio hardware reverb rack. If you were on a budget and recorded at home back in the day, your rack might have looked something like this.
As far as the other reverbs:
- I LOVE Quadraverbs. Noisy as hell, but they have that 90s Warp records sound. If you heard a modulated reverb in the 1990s on an Aphex Twin, Autechre or Squarepusher track, you were hearing a Quadraverb. Those folks didn't own the higher end Lexicons (224, 224XL, 480L, PCM70/80/81/90/91) that had modulated reverbs.
- Lexicon LXP15: I have one. Not super impressed. No modulation in the reverb algorithms. They sound OK, but not nearly as cool as the modulated reverbs found in the higher end Lexicons listed above. The pitch shifter in the LXP15 sounds GREAT. Which is weird, as the same processor used to compute the pitch shift splice points in the LXP15 (the lowly Z80) would have had enough horsepower to add modulation to the LXP15 reverb algorithms.
In general, I feel that a good ambient reverb either needs to have modulation, which was the Lexicon approach, or throw a TON of resources at the reverb, which was the Quantec approach. A Quantec has enough delay memory that you can have really long decay lengths without hearing periodic artifacts. The older Quantecs would sound super grainy at large size settings (i.e. the size needed to avoid looping artifacts for long decays), but this doesn't matter for sounds that don't have sharp transients.
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
They still sound like spring reverb, but, they sound better than typical guitar reverb because of the details of the design. They have two tanks per unit, one short, one long, and the reverb time control blends between them. Combine that with the built in EQ and they are actually useful if you want a spring reverb sound.valhallasound wrote:How do the Tapco spring reverbs sound? I've seen a few rackmounted spring reverbs locally, but I've passed them up. I have the built in spring reverb in my Princeton Reverb, and several different spring tanks for an Intellijel Springray, for research purposes.ghettosynth wrote:90s home studio hardware reverb rack. If you were on a budget and recorded at home back in the day, your rack might have looked something like this.
I see some silly prices on ebay for them, I wouldn't pay that TBH. I don't have these because I have a thing for spring reverbs. I have these because they were given to me and they are somewhat unique in my hardware rack.
Thanks for your insight on the other verbs. I'm just setting this back up again, I haven't heard the lexicon in something like 15 years. I've used the other verbs from time to time since then so I know what they're good for. That's why I asked whether it was worth bolting back in the rack. I did it anyway for the time being. We'll see how I end up using them. It's not like I don't have more rack gear than rack space, so if it isn't pulling it's weight, it's out of there.
- KVRian
- 1403 posts since 30 Mar, 2014
valhallasound wrote:Nah, I'm good.Apratim wrote:hey man do you want IR files of valhall room
IR specs
1)length-10sec
2)no additional low pass or high pass on the reverbs(total raw IR with all the algorithm)
lol
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- KVRian
- 1226 posts since 26 Feb, 2016
All these are capable of doing Ambient music.Kinh wrote:Vintage verb, plate, room or shimmer?
I like to blend them on different instruments.
Many reverbs, hardware and software can do a fine job, with the right presets.
- KVRian
- 1202 posts since 8 May, 2003 from Munich
Eclectus already posted a video 'how to' on Ubermod.
Here's one, also by Sami, on Shimmer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dARG536f3FI&t=38s
And one about making reverb fit your mix, with a little bit about Vintage Verb (and you hear it in action quite a bit): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HwGCsnsL70
Here's one, also by Sami, on Shimmer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dARG536f3FI&t=38s
And one about making reverb fit your mix, with a little bit about Vintage Verb (and you hear it in action quite a bit): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HwGCsnsL70
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- KVRian
- 549 posts since 9 Aug, 2005 from USA
Yes, and B2 is another good one.MogwaiBoy wrote:Or if you can find Eventide Blackhole in the Buy & Sell pretty cheap, get that!
2CAudio B2, very cool reverb for ambient (example with Steve's great presets):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZ86mmlWnM
Blackhole is also super great for Ambient music.
It just has that spaciousness that works well for ambient:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORCDHkfafZI
- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
its not about what reverb is best, but how much and what sounds it is used on.
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
- KVRAF
- 6980 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Didn't know that these are from Valhalla as well ...Firebird wrote:Yes, and B2 is another good one.MogwaiBoy wrote:Or if you can find Eventide Blackhole in the Buy & Sell pretty cheap, get that!
2CAudio B2, very cool reverb for ambient (example with Steve's great presets):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZ86mmlWnM
Blackhole is also super great for Ambient music.
It just has that spaciousness that works well for ambient:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORCDHkfafZI
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 30 May, 2003 from Milan, Italy
martinjuenke wrote:Didn't know that these are from Valhalla as well ...Firebird wrote:Yes, and B2 is another good one.MogwaiBoy wrote:Or if you can find Eventide Blackhole in the Buy & Sell pretty cheap, get that!
2CAudio B2, very cool reverb for ambient (example with Steve's great presets):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZ86mmlWnM
Blackhole is also super great for Ambient music.
It just has that spaciousness that works well for ambient:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORCDHkfafZI
It's all about specific use, I have them all excpet for the Audio Damage one. They can all be used well for ambient music. If I had to take only one to a desert island, it would be VVV. But they are all good, for ambient music.