My favorite all time reverb is this monstrous delay on the song All Cats Are Grey by The Cure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG_0LUdM-X8
What Valhalla verb would you use to get the sound on those drums?
Reverb match needed: The Cure's All Cats Are Grey
- KVRAF
- 3426 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Pacific NW
I've listened to this several times, and I still can't figure out what reverb to use. But it is a GREAT song. I need to check out those first few Cure albums (the earliest one I own is Pornography).
There were only a few options available at the time:
- EMT140. Strong contender, especially with a lot of predelay. I'd use ValhallaPlate for this.
- EMT250. The earliest digital reverb. I'd use the Sanctuary mode in VintageVerb for this, but it doesn't sound like an EMT250 to my ears.
- Lexicon 224, using the Percussion Plate. Dirty Plate in VintageVerb would be the one to use.
- AMS RMX16. I don't have anything that directly corresponds. It might be a bit early for that plugin.
The reverb sounds very stereo to me, in that a drum from the left will have reverb in the left channel, and vice versa. But there is a lot more reverb in the drums on the left. So I can't tell if it is a naturally stereo reverb algorithm (like Dirty Plate / 224 Percussion Plate), or if it is a mono-input reverb with a lot of panning.
My Valhalla suggestions: VintageVerb Dirty Plate in 70s mode, with Attack at 0%, Size at 100%, and other parameters to taste. Or, any of the algorithms from ValhallaPlate.
There were only a few options available at the time:
- EMT140. Strong contender, especially with a lot of predelay. I'd use ValhallaPlate for this.
- EMT250. The earliest digital reverb. I'd use the Sanctuary mode in VintageVerb for this, but it doesn't sound like an EMT250 to my ears.
- Lexicon 224, using the Percussion Plate. Dirty Plate in VintageVerb would be the one to use.
- AMS RMX16. I don't have anything that directly corresponds. It might be a bit early for that plugin.
The reverb sounds very stereo to me, in that a drum from the left will have reverb in the left channel, and vice versa. But there is a lot more reverb in the drums on the left. So I can't tell if it is a naturally stereo reverb algorithm (like Dirty Plate / 224 Percussion Plate), or if it is a mono-input reverb with a lot of panning.
My Valhalla suggestions: VintageVerb Dirty Plate in 70s mode, with Attack at 0%, Size at 100%, and other parameters to taste. Or, any of the algorithms from ValhallaPlate.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1416 posts since 30 Mar, 2014
Yeah, I dig that song so much. Best track on what is a such a spacious and sad album. So much space, and they let it breath. Pornography on the other hand… tries to suffocate you.
As to recreating this sound, I’ve tried a ton of different reverbs, but the transients always come through too heavy and bright. I’ll try your suggestion.
As to recreating this sound, I’ve tried a ton of different reverbs, but the transients always come through too heavy and bright. I’ll try your suggestion.