Which modern program do people use to record and layer guitar riffs to record quick ideas and jam?
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wizardofthestrings wizardofthestrings https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=423013
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 22 Jul, 2018
I haven't played for a while (really busy with graduate program), and now I'm back into music and guitar playing.
I really really really liked Sonoma Riff Works back in the day, as I could get to practicing and jamming in the time it took to load the program and click record, like 10 seconds. But it no longer seems to be supported . I hate diddling with a full fledged DAW when all I really want is a basic looper, a metronome that can do different rhythm and styles in the form of a drummer (Metronome is CRUCIAL for me!!) and some controls.
Sound wise, I don't like the drummer in riffworks all that much. I've been experimenting with using a saved filed with Reaper studio to quickly open up a session where i can layer and whatnot, but the quickness and speed just aren't there, especially when it comes to changing the drummer style, moving things around, etc. I want minimal mouse clicking and dinking around, maximal guitar practicing and riff idea recording.
Are there any modern programs that are essentially riff works but updated with good drum sounds? I wasn't able to find what I was looking for after browsing a bunch of the "top guitar apps" and "top guitar song writer apps" lists.
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(On a side question, riff works also had a riff share program that was really nice. It's no longer supported. What is the modern community way of sharing riffs, laying down a groove on someone else track, and hearing where people take my tracks?)
I really really really liked Sonoma Riff Works back in the day, as I could get to practicing and jamming in the time it took to load the program and click record, like 10 seconds. But it no longer seems to be supported . I hate diddling with a full fledged DAW when all I really want is a basic looper, a metronome that can do different rhythm and styles in the form of a drummer (Metronome is CRUCIAL for me!!) and some controls.
Sound wise, I don't like the drummer in riffworks all that much. I've been experimenting with using a saved filed with Reaper studio to quickly open up a session where i can layer and whatnot, but the quickness and speed just aren't there, especially when it comes to changing the drummer style, moving things around, etc. I want minimal mouse clicking and dinking around, maximal guitar practicing and riff idea recording.
Are there any modern programs that are essentially riff works but updated with good drum sounds? I wasn't able to find what I was looking for after browsing a bunch of the "top guitar apps" and "top guitar song writer apps" lists.
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(On a side question, riff works also had a riff share program that was really nice. It's no longer supported. What is the modern community way of sharing riffs, laying down a groove on someone else track, and hearing where people take my tracks?)
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- KVRist
- 361 posts since 20 Jul, 2018
You say you don't like full fledge DAW .. but what about a full fledged DAW that you have a template saved for. Then it's literally ... load the DAW with the template and hit record. It is possible with the DAW to have it load up with your drum track, tempo, routing, and everything ready to go. You can even customize the workspace in most DAWs to hide stuff you aren't using.
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- KVRAF
- 2591 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
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- KVRist
- 48 posts since 1 May, 2016
Check out Band in a box (using RealDrums) @ http://www.pgmusic.com/wizardofthestrings wrote:Are there any modern programs that are essentially riff works but updated with good drum sounds?
- KVRAF
- 15008 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
That’s what I was going to say. Seems pretty good. I used to use Möbius inside of Ableton with its looper, but I moved to Bitwig and Möbius won’t sync right. There’s one looper I found that’s 64 bit and pretty good... but it’s a bit awkward to use and doesn’t have a manual... I forget its name. I wrote to the developer, asking for a manual, and it took him about 6 months to respond, so I don’t have much confidence about giving him money. For drums I’d look into Jamstix or something like that.ShawnMH wrote:Amplitube 4 has an 8 track recorder built-in to it, perfect for this. I am pretty sure it has a metronome, but no drums.
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- KVRian
- 571 posts since 14 Nov, 2005 from León, Spain
I was joking before, but after actually reading the OP I must say that probably Reaper would do well for that task with some planning and customizing.JoseC. wrote:I did not even read the OP, but I will say Reaper!
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wizardofthestrings wizardofthestrings https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=423013
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 22 Jul, 2018
Hmm amplitube seemed like the perfect program with the looper and multi track recorder built in, but wow it seems the guitar sims are just awful.
Compared straight against helix (also vst version), it's just noisy, and the distortion sounds like a $10 amp.
Flipping through the presets, I can't find anything good. It sounds super fizzy regardless of clean or high gain. The high gain sounds especially terrible, although if the fizzy quality could be taken out, it would be pretty good I think. I thought it was just the pregain being set way to high at first, but even at the point barely distorting, the distortion sounds terrible. And the clean sound before it distorts is pretty terrible as well. I must be doing something wrong as youtube demos of amplitube sound much better, no different than helix.
Compared straight against helix (also vst version), it's just noisy, and the distortion sounds like a $10 amp.
Flipping through the presets, I can't find anything good. It sounds super fizzy regardless of clean or high gain. The high gain sounds especially terrible, although if the fizzy quality could be taken out, it would be pretty good I think. I thought it was just the pregain being set way to high at first, but even at the point barely distorting, the distortion sounds terrible. And the clean sound before it distorts is pretty terrible as well. I must be doing something wrong as youtube demos of amplitube sound much better, no different than helix.
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
- KVRian
- 808 posts since 10 Sep, 2015 from You haven't unlocked this character yet
Clip-view mode in Ableton Live Lite. Nothing to learn and essentially no cost. You have the option to make a song. Tons of videos on it. Latest version just came out.
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 3 Mar, 2010
Maybe your cabinet is switched off? I highly recommend the Mesa Boogie collection in Amplitube - it is excellent, IMHO.wizardofthestrings wrote:Hmm amplitube seemed like the perfect program with the looper and multi track recorder built in, but wow it seems the guitar sims are just awful.
Compared straight against helix (also vst version), it's just noisy, and the distortion sounds like a $10 amp.
Flipping through the presets, I can't find anything good. It sounds super fizzy regardless of clean or high gain. The high gain sounds especially terrible, although if the fizzy quality could be taken out, it would be pretty good I think. I thought it was just the pregain being set way to high at first, but even at the point barely distorting, the distortion sounds terrible. And the clean sound before it distorts is pretty terrible as well. I must be doing something wrong as youtube demos of amplitube sound much better, no different than helix.
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wizardofthestrings wizardofthestrings https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=423013
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 22 Jul, 2018
@bharris22, Yeah that was what it really sounded like. But they were definitely on. I have a suspicion feeding it through better IRs would sound a lot better though as it sounds exactly like bad cab sims. I'll try those cabs out. Thanks
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- KVRist
- 350 posts since 11 Jan, 2014
what if people do NOT want to customize beforehand? what if people just wanna start doing music?JoseC. wrote:...Reaper would do well for that task with some planning and customizing.
edit: not reading the op but recommending R is the essence of those fanboys, isn't it?