What morphing plugins are there and pros cons?

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Looks like melda mmorph, zynaptiq morph, and ina grm has some morphing stuff. What else?

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Soundpaint has a morphing feature.

Pros: They are fun to play with and are sometimes useful; once in a while something cool comes out
Cons: Hard to predict the result; sometimes disappointing; not as significant to my music making process as I thought they would be; once in a while something cool comes out, but then I realize later a vocoder would have gotten me there just fine.

Worth the price? Not sure, but I don't regret having the Zynaptiq and Melda (got in bundle) ones.
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Mmorph is on sale ATM

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Beside Alchemy's morph with the spectral resynthesis, all these pseudo morphing plugins always sounded more like a weird messy vocoder than true spectral morphing to my ears.

There is of course Kyma, king of the morphing, but it is totally another kind of animal not related to the plugin/vst world.

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Not a morphing plugin but free, CDP (https://www.unstablesound.net/cdp.html) has some morphing options that are usable imo. If you use Renoise there is a tool which gives a gui for the commandline processes to offline render results (https://www.renoise.com/tools/cdp-interface) and I thing Reaper also has a graphical editor for it(?). It takes a while to set-up though depending on your OS, but if you like experimenting with sounddesign there's enough to find in the package.

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Havok wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:12 am Also this one

https://unitedplugins.com/Transmutator/
Crossfading, not really morphing

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aMUSEd wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:12 am
Havok wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:12 am Also this one

https://unitedplugins.com/Transmutator/
Crossfading, not really morphing
Like mmorph?

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No I think the Melda one works like Zynapiq morph, using some sort of complex structural interpolation and resynthesis process (although we only have their word for it, not sure if it uses the same math as Zynaptiq are known for their research into and use of neural networks as part of the analysis and resynthesis process)

'Unlike simple cross-fading, which is just like having 2 faders one going down and the other going up, MMorph analyzes both input signals, one sent via the main input and the other via the side-chain, analyzes them both, finds important features and morphs them instead. Much like morphing a photo of one person into another.'

https://www.meldaproduction.com/MMorph

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Another approach, and one I have used extensively, is NI Kore 2, which allows you to take presets from a plugin or even group of plugins and morph between them, again not using crossfading but in this case interpolation of automatable parameters

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aMUSEd wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:39 am Another approach, and one I have used extensively, is NI Kore 2, which allows you to take presets from a plugin or even group of plugins and morph between them, again not using crossfading but in this case interpolation of automatable parameters
I think Ohmicide had something similar iirc. The ability to morph between presets

According to the blurb Transmutator can "Blend and fuse 2 audio signals in many creative ways, from spectral morphing to Noise/Tone merging."
That's what made me suggest it. Though tbh I can't compare it to the others so may well be completely different
Last edited by Havok on Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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MMorph can do this and is also lots of fun to use; it could be that Transmutator uses similar technology.
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Wow this kyma thing is something else....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt9tXXaXRrM

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Many years ago Kyma was the king of morphing. These days .. well, it still seems to be the only option for realistic sound morphing.

I've frequently checked for true alternatives for Kyma, but no, there isn't.
Too bad Kyma needs a dedicated hardware platform which is not for sale anymore.

We may see Google/Meta fill in the gap. That could mean sound morphing will become ubiqutous in society.
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