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Ooh, I like This Modular Rack...
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- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
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- KVRian
- 1227 posts since 13 May, 2015
Thanks, Ladik does look interesting.
I’m trying to add one module at a time as I identify a “need” but it might be better to have a longer term plan in mind given the limited space. Thinking the QARV might have been overkill but it does have mixing, 4 VCAs and 4 Envelopes in the space.
Very pleased with the Behringers. Well made, ergonomically nice to work with and so cheap!!!!
My current plan looks like this (but changes daily)
Thoughts welcome.
I’m trying to add one module at a time as I identify a “need” but it might be better to have a longer term plan in mind given the limited space. Thinking the QARV might have been overkill but it does have mixing, 4 VCAs and 4 Envelopes in the space.
Very pleased with the Behringers. Well made, ergonomically nice to work with and so cheap!!!!
My current plan looks like this (but changes daily)
Thoughts welcome.
Last edited by SHall1000 on Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
Actually, i would go for a Behringer Go case.
It will alleviate any HP anxieties and give 280 HP of peace and quiet.
Your current (small) rack with 16 hp Behringers isn t doing you any favors.
When I got my Go rack I was like: Ok, this is what i am talking about .
Even with my 6U rackbrute, i was already throwing stuff out, and an added row wasn t going to cut it either.
Now I feel like i have enough critical mass assembled in one rack.
You could go for smaller modules but dependent on the use case that will highten the cost as well. E.g. the After Later clones are smaller but will come at a higher price. And I fear you will still end up in the same place : always looking for rack space.
With a Behringer Go case (which is very good value for money), you can keep going the Behringer route with often bigger modules.
That being said I have a few pico modules in my case. They are small AND often also good value for money. Although the knobs are small, they have good handling and work well from a performance view e.g. for playing with the cutoff of a filter. I would never do this with the small knobs of the Behringer 121 for example which are awful in comparison.
Ladik and Tesseract have very nice value for money imo. IO instruments is another company I stumbled upon recently who have nice modules which are very good value for money.
It will alleviate any HP anxieties and give 280 HP of peace and quiet.
Your current (small) rack with 16 hp Behringers isn t doing you any favors.
When I got my Go rack I was like: Ok, this is what i am talking about .
Even with my 6U rackbrute, i was already throwing stuff out, and an added row wasn t going to cut it either.
Now I feel like i have enough critical mass assembled in one rack.
You could go for smaller modules but dependent on the use case that will highten the cost as well. E.g. the After Later clones are smaller but will come at a higher price. And I fear you will still end up in the same place : always looking for rack space.
With a Behringer Go case (which is very good value for money), you can keep going the Behringer route with often bigger modules.
That being said I have a few pico modules in my case. They are small AND often also good value for money. Although the knobs are small, they have good handling and work well from a performance view e.g. for playing with the cutoff of a filter. I would never do this with the small knobs of the Behringer 121 for example which are awful in comparison.
Ladik and Tesseract have very nice value for money imo. IO instruments is another company I stumbled upon recently who have nice modules which are very good value for money.
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 12944 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
I’d also mention Rides in the Storm, they do some really good utility modules which are pretty cheap.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/vendors/v ... %20DEALERS.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/vendors/v ... %20DEALERS.
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- KVRian
- 1227 posts since 13 May, 2015
I’ve been eyeing the Go case as a likely move at some point. Need to find the desk space for it and the 2600.
Although if I fill the Go case appropriately I could possibly let the 2600 go.
Although if I fill the Go case appropriately I could possibly let the 2600 go.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
I also started with a semi-modular but as i progressed i started to build my modular as a self contained unit. For me it makes more sense. The Go case will give you many years to fill it up and personally i don t feel the need for a second case.
There is tons of stuff that you need for modular. As you start off, it never seems to end, but i think you can put enough stuff in a Go case to have all your needs covered.
And if you really want to hold on to to some aspect of the 2600 (specific sound of oscillator, filter? ) you can get a few of the separate 2600 Behringer modules.
- KVRAF
- 5757 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
a lot of cases can be a pain, i have 7 and the
parts for 2 more. Thats a lot of psu's. heh
Im waiting for Cioks to make a eurorack psu
since im not smart enough to figure out how
to adapt one, since they can do 12v.
parts for 2 more. Thats a lot of psu's. heh
Im waiting for Cioks to make a eurorack psu
since im not smart enough to figure out how
to adapt one, since they can do 12v.
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 12944 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
The only 2600 eurorack module Behringer does is a single VCO as far as I know, they do 2500 series cloned modules but I imagine they’re different from the 2600
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Correct. I think that it's a mistake to think about the 2600 in this way. A big part of the value of the 2600 is its semi-modular nature. The filter and the ring mod might contribute in some specific way to the sound, but, they're really not that interesting by themselves.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:00 pmThe only 2600 eurorack module Behringer does is a single VCO as far as I know, they do 2500 series cloned modules but I imagine they’re different from the 2600
While I think that the GO cases represent great value, every day I realize that going with rack cases was the best decision that I could have made. It's not cheaper or less work though, so if you aren't handy, something like a GO case is probably the better way to ... wait for it ... go.
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 12944 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
Every time I want to play on the modular I have to lift two fully loaded Go cases onto my desk and then lift them off when I’m done.
It’s probably the only exercise I get most weeks.
It’s probably the only exercise I get most weeks.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Ugh, could not do that. Can't you just get rid of the dining table and put your modular there?WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:04 am Every time I want to play on the modular I have to lift two fully loaded Go cases onto my desk and then lift them off when I’m done.
It’s probably the only exercise I get most weeks.
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 12944 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
If I was middle class enough to have one I would.ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:51 amUgh, could not do that. Can't you just get rid of the dining table and put your modular there?WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:04 am Every time I want to play on the modular I have to lift two fully loaded Go cases onto my desk and then lift them off when I’m done.
It’s probably the only exercise I get most weeks.
I come from a tray on your lap household.
It’s a small house and all other space is used.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
I agree. I think the 2500 modules/sound are more interesting, but i opted out of the 1047 too as i already have plenty of characterful filters. It would not bring anything new to the table.ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:46 am I think that it's a mistake to think about the 2600 in this way. A big part of the value of the 2600 is its semi-modular nature. The filter and the ring mod might contribute in some specific way to the sound, but, they're really not that interesting by themselves.
I acquired the SEM A-105-6 filter together with the Go case and quite pleased with that one.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
Am i a filterfreak? Yes!
This is a very interesting filterbank that you can sequence. You can choose between different filters: bandpass, allpass and karplus strong implementation. It has interesting hidden features like a clock divider, chord and formant presets, freeze a filter, manually manipulate the sequence, slew options.
I have 4 separate filters that can do bandpass, so i ll give this approach manually a go with my sequencer but this is of course a very nice module that routes the whole thing internally with stereo panning and presets for easy recall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7C3ywZseEU
4 ms has their spectral multiband resonator which is somewhat similar but i m liking the RYK approach better.
This is a very interesting filterbank that you can sequence. You can choose between different filters: bandpass, allpass and karplus strong implementation. It has interesting hidden features like a clock divider, chord and formant presets, freeze a filter, manually manipulate the sequence, slew options.
I have 4 separate filters that can do bandpass, so i ll give this approach manually a go with my sequencer but this is of course a very nice module that routes the whole thing internally with stereo panning and presets for easy recall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7C3ywZseEU
4 ms has their spectral multiband resonator which is somewhat similar but i m liking the RYK approach better.
Last edited by Stefken on Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
Any comment on filterbanks would be appreciated.
Some have fixed frequencies with dynamic control over the level, others (also) have dynamic control over the frequency.
Some have feedback routes incorporated which also seems an interesting way to manipulate your sound.
Lots of interesting options here so i m interested to hear some thoughts about it.
Some have fixed frequencies with dynamic control over the level, others (also) have dynamic control over the frequency.
Some have feedback routes incorporated which also seems an interesting way to manipulate your sound.
Lots of interesting options here so i m interested to hear some thoughts about it.