Roland Cloud still can’t fix CPU spikes and audio dropouts ?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 110 posts since 30 Sep, 2021
I tried latest version of Roland Cloud XV-5080, JV-1080 and various SRX plugins. They still have CPU spikes and audio dropouts at low and medium buffer sizes.
Here I made a short video tying to demonstrate those issues with XV-5080
https://youtu.be/Kz5CWt036Ts?si=_XaQhNxFq2ouL_jg
( yes I had to use annoying over-used type of clickbait YouTube thumbnail in attempt not get some users on YouTube to see the video )
Here I made a short video tying to demonstrate those issues with XV-5080
https://youtu.be/Kz5CWt036Ts?si=_XaQhNxFq2ouL_jg
( yes I had to use annoying over-used type of clickbait YouTube thumbnail in attempt not get some users on YouTube to see the video )
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- KVRAF
- 7757 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
I don't run into issues like that on my PC with the VST2 or VST3 version of the XV-5080. I have a Focusrite 2i2 and a i7-10700 CPU. I have it set to a lower buffer size - 32 samples.vad.martyn wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:06 pm I tried latest version of Roland Cloud XV-5080, JV-1080 and various SRX plugins. They still have CPU spikes and audio dropouts at low and medium buffer sizes.
- KVRAF
- 13224 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
I recently upgraded from an intel 2014 macbook pro to a 2021 macbook pro.
I didn't have the spikes before in XV-5080. I sure have them now.
D-50 still remains fine, as does the 808 and 909, but the Jupiter 4 and 8 AND Juno 60 and 106 continue to have them (for sure I thought upgrading my mac would have solved those and yes I have them on lower cpu ticked off).
Cubendo, vst3. Either 64 or 128 sample buffer size.
rsp
I didn't have the spikes before in XV-5080. I sure have them now.
D-50 still remains fine, as does the 808 and 909, but the Jupiter 4 and 8 AND Juno 60 and 106 continue to have them (for sure I thought upgrading my mac would have solved those and yes I have them on lower cpu ticked off).
Cubendo, vst3. Either 64 or 128 sample buffer size.
rsp
sound sculptist
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- KVRian
- 792 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA
almost the same here. I dont have any issues on Windows 10 PC. but do on a M1 Mac, both in Logic and Cubase and both in Native and rosetta modes.
Macbook M1 Max 32GB Ram Cubase 12
- KVRAF
- 14998 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
That's because Macs are better than PCs.Examigan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:49 pmI don't run into issues like that on my PC with the VST2 or VST3 version of the XV-5080. I have a Focusrite 2i2 and a i7-10700 CPU. I have it set to a lower buffer size - 32 samples.vad.martyn wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:06 pm I tried latest version of Roland Cloud XV-5080, JV-1080 and various SRX plugins. They still have CPU spikes and audio dropouts at low and medium buffer sizes.
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- KVRAF
- 7757 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
I didn't mean anything by it, like PC is better etc. I just wanted to mention it because in the OP it didn't say anything about it being a Mac issue, but then I noticed he uses one in the video.
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- KVRist
- 316 posts since 30 May, 2005
To be honest I am glad to see other people reporting the issues. I have an ongoing back and forth with Roland support over these issues but as far as they can tell it’s only my machine. The problem for me (M1 Max Mac Studio with 64gb) is only with the recent releases of the JV, XV and SRX plugins. All others work great. The problem occurs across VST3 and AU, tested in Logic, Ableton, Maschine and Komplete Kontrol. Latest versions of everything.
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- KVRist
- 80 posts since 3 Dec, 2022
I have an m1 mac and roland cloud xv5080, with zenology, and have never had any audio issues with them at all. I use ableton live, but garageband and mainstage are almost the same as logic, and roland cloud runs perfect within those apps.
You might want to try one of those mac cleaner type apps, and try trashing certain roland associated preferences. Also try uninstalling and reinstalling with updated versions of all roland cloud apps.
You might want to try one of those mac cleaner type apps, and try trashing certain roland associated preferences. Also try uninstalling and reinstalling with updated versions of all roland cloud apps.
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- KVRist
- 316 posts since 30 May, 2005
I use AU and VST3, buffer should not come into it, given that the non-sample based plugs should use a lot more CPU yet work perfectly at standard buffers (128). As it is I still get issues at slower buffers.
I did a full reinstall of everything Roland a couple of weeks ago and no change in behaviour. I did comprehensive deep searches of my OS for anything Roland and deleted all of those.
I am convinced there is a compilation coding issue given the issue only happens with a particularly batch of plugins.
Also the fact that other Roland plugins (particularly System 1) previously had these issues, that got resolved with more recent updates.
I did a full reinstall of everything Roland a couple of weeks ago and no change in behaviour. I did comprehensive deep searches of my OS for anything Roland and deleted all of those.
I am convinced there is a compilation coding issue given the issue only happens with a particularly batch of plugins.
Also the fact that other Roland plugins (particularly System 1) previously had these issues, that got resolved with more recent updates.
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- KVRist
- 316 posts since 30 May, 2005
Is yours a silicon mac? I have an older Intel that seems to work ok now tho the CPU usage for the Jupiter and Juno plugs is still quite high. On my silicon mac the CPU for those plugs is very low - relatively.zvenx wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:58 pm I recently upgraded from an intel 2014 macbook pro to a 2021 macbook pro.
I didn't have the spikes before in XV-5080. I sure have them now.
D-50 still remains fine, as does the 808 and 909, but the Jupiter 4 and 8 AND Juno 60 and 106 continue to have them (for sure I thought upgrading my mac would have solved those and yes I have them on lower cpu ticked off).
Cubendo, vst3. Either 64 or 128 sample buffer size.
rsp
- KVRAF
- 13224 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
- KVRAF
- 13224 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
yes 2021 macbooks apple were completely apple silicon.Mogular wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:29 amIs yours a silicon mac? I have an older Intel that seems to work ok now tho the CPU usage for the Jupiter and Juno plugs is still quite high. On my silicon mac the CPU for those plugs is very low - relatively.zvenx wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:58 pm I recently upgraded from an intel 2014 macbook pro to a 2021 macbook pro.
I didn't have the spikes before in XV-5080. I sure have them now.
D-50 still remains fine, as does the 808 and 909, but the Jupiter 4 and 8 AND Juno 60 and 106 continue to have them (for sure I thought upgrading my mac would have solved those and yes I have them on lower cpu ticked off).
Cubendo, vst3. Either 64 or 128 sample buffer size.
rsp
rsp
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- KVRist
- 316 posts since 30 May, 2005
These are the key differences that I see in the performance meter in logic when comparing plugins that work correctly and plugins that don't.
These screenshots are taken when the particular plugin is selected in the logic track list - so this is in live mode
first is the srx brass plugin and this is the jupiter 8 I should note that when either plugin is not in live mode that I don't get any clicks and pops.
So for me the SRX plugins are still usable but I just can't play them in live mode without getting any distracting noises
given that every other virtual synth that I own has none of these issues, it's very hard to imagine that there's anything particular on my system that should be causing this
These screenshots are taken when the particular plugin is selected in the logic track list - so this is in live mode
first is the srx brass plugin and this is the jupiter 8 I should note that when either plugin is not in live mode that I don't get any clicks and pops.
So for me the SRX plugins are still usable but I just can't play them in live mode without getting any distracting noises
given that every other virtual synth that I own has none of these issues, it's very hard to imagine that there's anything particular on my system that should be causing this
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 20 Nov, 2021
You guys leave Roland plugins running?
I just load them briefly, sample the sound I want to use and then delete the track they were on.
I just load them briefly, sample the sound I want to use and then delete the track they were on.