MPE support public preview revision 15139 (ACE, Bazille, Diva, Hive)
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AStrangeWedding AStrangeWedding https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=683966
- KVRer
- 6 posts since 23 Nov, 2023 from France
Setting Up Osmose as MPE controller
1 Press the menu button
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2 Switch to external midi mode
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3 Make sure the preset is MPE
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Your Osmose is now set as an MPE controller
Some key features worth checking :
1 In the adjust tab, make sure Pressure is assigned to "ch. press" (channel pressure)
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2 make sure aftertouch is assigned to "CC 74"
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3 In the sensitivity tab, make sure bending is set to "1/48"
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4 scrolling to velocity/pressure menu, this is where you can adjust the depth where osmose is triggering a new note and use the curves to ease/enhance MPE reactivity.
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1 Press the menu button
. .
2 Switch to external midi mode
. .
3 Make sure the preset is MPE
. .
Your Osmose is now set as an MPE controller
Some key features worth checking :
1 In the adjust tab, make sure Pressure is assigned to "ch. press" (channel pressure)
. .
2 make sure aftertouch is assigned to "CC 74"
. .
3 In the sensitivity tab, make sure bending is set to "1/48"
. .
4 scrolling to velocity/pressure menu, this is where you can adjust the depth where osmose is triggering a new note and use the curves to ease/enhance MPE reactivity.
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AStrangeWedding AStrangeWedding https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=683966
- KVRer
- 6 posts since 23 Nov, 2023 from France
I may have encountered a problem
When using CLAP format in bitwig, modulating the cutoff of diva with the channel pressure introduces some noise/distortion, only with seaboard.
platform used : macbook pro m1 2020
DAW : Bitwig studio 5.0.11
controller : Roli Seaboard 1
cannot reproduce in Live 11
cannot reproduce in bitwig with osmose instead of seaboard
Audio file showing the issue: modulation with Osmose, then modulation with seaboard
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vpf244 ... sp=sharing
Preset used in the audio file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hrXDkt ... sp=sharing
When using CLAP format in bitwig, modulating the cutoff of diva with the channel pressure introduces some noise/distortion, only with seaboard.
platform used : macbook pro m1 2020
DAW : Bitwig studio 5.0.11
controller : Roli Seaboard 1
cannot reproduce in Live 11
cannot reproduce in bitwig with osmose instead of seaboard
Audio file showing the issue: modulation with Osmose, then modulation with seaboard
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vpf244 ... sp=sharing
Preset used in the audio file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hrXDkt ... sp=sharing
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1737 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
There is a problem in Bitwig which can lead to some weird noises, e.g. when using Note Expressions with CLAP, but we were told it's on Bitwig's side and they will look into it.AStrangeWedding wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:55 pm When using CLAP format in bitwig, modulating the cutoff of diva with the channel pressure introduces some noise/distortion, only with seaboard.
Btw, thank you for the amazing "how to" explanations. Great work.
That QA guy from planet u-he.
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1737 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
Maybe wait until the updates are officially released.
We are contemplating some ideas on how to improve the whole MPE setup, but I can't tell how quickly we'll be able to implement those ideas. Might very well be something that has to wait for a future update, not sure yet.
That QA guy from planet u-he.
- KVRAF
- 25468 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Yay! CLAP MPE is working now in Bitwig 5.1 beta 7!
and fortunately, I can switch to Bazille's original skin, enable MPE and switch back to gearporn and it still works.
Time to finally do some testing
and fortunately, I can switch to Bazille's original skin, enable MPE and switch back to gearporn and it still works.
Time to finally do some testing
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- KVRAF
- 2008 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo
ACE working well in REAPER with minimal setup on the DAW's end. REAPER distributes notes and CCs across channels automatically starting from channel 1 and going up with polyphony, returning to lowest channel as they are freed. Using a Sensel Morph.
In VST3 I had to set PB manually. In CLAP it is locked to +/- 12 no matter what PB is set to.
Also, CLAP version crashes if a REAPER selection loop reaches the end with repeat enabled.
Can't test rest as they are in active projects.
In VST3 I had to set PB manually. In CLAP it is locked to +/- 12 no matter what PB is set to.
Also, CLAP version crashes if a REAPER selection loop reaches the end with repeat enabled.
Can't test rest as they are in active projects.
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1737 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
ACE CLAP version works fine in Reaper over here, and no one else reported such a problem yet.
Would you contact our support and send some more information about that so we can investigate?
https://u-he.com/support/#contact
That QA guy from planet u-he.
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- KVRAF
- 2008 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo
I've narrowed the issue down to the option: Preferences > Audio > Playback > Flush FX when looping.tasmaniandevil wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:39 pmACE CLAP version works fine in Reaper over here, and no one else reported such a problem yet.
Would you contact our support and send some more information about that so we can investigate?
If enabled, it crashes on loop. It's for specific use cases with certain non-instrument FX so I don't think it's necessarily a u-He problem to fix.
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 27 Mar, 2017
i 'am new with diva but, i don't see where to enable the mpe mode on diva
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1737 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
Explained here: viewtopic.php?p=8792911#p8792911Naudmeisster wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:47 pm i 'am new with diva but, i don't see where to enable the mpe mode on diva
And with a picture, so you can find it: viewtopic.php?p=8792918#p8792918
That QA guy from planet u-he.
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1737 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
Awesome, thanks for that. I can reproduce this now. And it's indeed Reaper misbehaving.
I have posted the issue in the Reaper forum just now.
That QA guy from planet u-he.
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- KVRAF
- 6468 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
Bazille:
I had to rollback because this revision started "clicking" in one of my active projects at the beginning of the track
edit2:
wtf now 12092 is clicking as well.
the issue is "dist" module.
if I enable "dist" module on init preset, the track will click on playback start in Logic 10.8.
I'm not sure where all these clicks are coming from but i don't remember them. Was the clicking in Diva fixed?
"No reset" does not fix bazille click.
I have to actually automate track mute to get rid of it.
I had to rollback because this revision started "clicking" in one of my active projects at the beginning of the track
edit2:
wtf now 12092 is clicking as well.
the issue is "dist" module.
if I enable "dist" module on init preset, the track will click on playback start in Logic 10.8.
I'm not sure where all these clicks are coming from but i don't remember them. Was the clicking in Diva fixed?
"No reset" does not fix bazille click.
I have to actually automate track mute to get rid of it.
Last edited by Ploki on Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- u-he
- 28065 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
That is most likely the result of a bugfix as Bazille now resets properly on playback start.
This means, rolling back is not going to work in the long run as we will not change that behaviour. It would however be great to have an example project, maybe just that one track with Bazille that clicks, the first few notes, so we can assess if there is a chance to make it not click in the future.
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- KVRAF
- 6468 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
sorry i kept editing the original post.Urs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:51 pmThat is most likely the result of a bugfix as Bazille now resets properly on playback start.
This means, rolling back is not going to work in the long run as we will not change that behaviour. It would however be great to have an example project, maybe just that one track with Bazille that clicks, the first few notes, so we can assess if there is a chance to make it not click in the future.
Logic 10.8 Apple Silicon, either 12092 or 15139 15152.
New blank project, new track, init preset, enable "dist" fx, start playback == click
same with 10.7.9 and 12029 native silicon
Rosetta 10.8 + 12029 rosetta - click
click is also audible if i just enable/disable "dist" module
edit:
click also audible if i enable 16 samples latency (i generally keep it to "off")
edit2:
i sent a video to support mail