Ableton 12 - Generative MIDI, Multiband Distortion and more

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Thanks, from a quick Google this seems to be a bug that's been around for years and never fixed. New to Live in the last few months but not new to DAWs in general.

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Some hero made a PDF of the on-line 12 manual!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ableton/commen ... anual_pdf/
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SLiC wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:46 pm Some hero made a PDF of the on-line 12 manual!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ableton/commen ... anual_pdf/
Needs to be said as posted on this Reddit the reason Ableton hasn’t made a pdf version of it themselves yet is because it’s still a work in progress. Sections missing and sections being updated.
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LIVE 12 midi handling is wow
I've been a user since v.6 & this new version is a mind-bending step forward. It's gonna take some time to evolve my primitive use of midi to this next level.
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Mister Natural wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:52 pm LIVE 12 midi handling is wow
I've been a user since v.6 & this new version is a mind-bending step forward. It's gonna take some time to evolve my primitive use of midi to this next level.
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Yes, wouldn't ask Ableton much more in the MIDI handling department now. It's pretty much done to me. Now I would like if they improved all things audio. I'd be great if they implemented native pitch correction tools, ARA2 and such.
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Yorrrrrr wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:01 pm Yes, wouldn't ask to Ableton much more in the MIDI handling department now. It's pretty much done to me.
Mostly there's some MIDI handling in terms of routing between tracks that could use improvement, but that will probably get fixed when MIDI 2.0 becomes standard.

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Actual MIDI plugin support would be nice. Not needing to have 2 tracks (one for e.g. Scaler and another one with the actual plugin) for this would be cool. Or the ability to send MIDI notes to effect plugins.
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sQeetz wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:58 pm Actual MIDI plugin support would be nice. Not needing to have 2 tracks (one for e.g. Scaler and another one with the actual plugin) for this would be cool. Or the ability to send MIDI notes to effect plugins.
I wrap my MIDI VST's in M4L Midi Effect. Very low effort. e.g. for Riffer...

(open) -> [RifferVST] -> [midiout]

Add the (open) message to presentation.

job done.

(Scaler also requires [midiin]->[midiparse]->[Scaler2VST])

I have Jamstix, Scaler2, Maschine, Cthulhu, etc all wrapped. The plug window is a bit weird and it's marginally less efficient but I HATE the 2 track thing.
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sQeetz wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:58 pm Or the ability to send MIDI notes to effect plugins.
I’m not sure if you just want to see a better workflow or general support for this — but it’s possible, either with a grouped External Instrument or with a second track sending MIDI to the plugin.

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12.0.5b1 now available for those wanting to beta test. Huge list of fixes, as well as new features and improvements.
Last edited by Yorrrrrr on Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:38 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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Yorrrrrr wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:52 pm 12.0.5b1 now available for those wanting to beta test. Huge list of fixes, as well as new features and improvements.
https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-12-beta/
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Some major annoyances from the initial release were fixed! Such as:

- Detail view keyboard shortcut restored (Command+Option+L)
- Keyboard shortcuts for arrangement view tracks sections (Command+Option+I and R when in focus)
- Sort plugins by vendor in browser.
- And more...
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Wow, great first fix release, they have been working hard! Ableton are on it, a lot of the things they have done are not bug fixes, they are listening to users feedback- revolutionary! :clap:
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