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martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:59 pm

chk071 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:00 pm you just pulled that claim out of your derrière.

Yes, it smells like that

Jac459 · Post by **Jac459** » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:22 pm

martinjuenke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:59 pm
chk071 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:00 pm you just pulled that claim out of your derrière.
Yes, it smells like that

No, I actually agree with the claim, I also read than Arturia finance terrorism and is responsible of the crack of 1929.
Oh and I forgot, they encourage kids labour.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:28 pm

They are also French.

Monsieur_FyP · Post by **Monsieur_FyP** » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:44 pm

chk071 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:28 pm They are also French.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:18 pm

chk071 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:28 pm They are also French.

We all have some problems...

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:19 pm

3ptguitarist · Post by **3ptguitarist** » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:18 pm

What can pigments 5 do that Dune 3, Massive X, and Ableton Wavetable can't do? I'm trying to see if I should buy it for $69 or not.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:23 pm

Great additive and granular for a start

Multiple synth engines with cross modulation between them all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsO8FtjTjt4

Wider range of filters including a LPG, very few synths have that - one of the few synths that can move fluidly between East and West Coast flavours

Probably one of the best sequencers in any synth plus a very intuitive and comprehensive modulation system with a lot of options

Lbdunequest · Post by **Lbdunequest** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:13 am

3ptguitarist wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:18 pm What can pigments 5 do that Dune 3, Massive X, and Ableton Wavetable can't do? I'm trying to see if I should buy it for $69 or not.

Cant say about Ableton Wavetable but pigments 5 is much easier to use then Dune 3 and Massive X, workflow is much better. Pigments 5 has a really fun and inviting to use sequencer, with Multicore added option id say its quite easy on CPU now too. It has better fx then Dune 3. Better sampler and also granular oscillator mode.

Jac459 · Post by **Jac459** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:46 am

chk071 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:28 pm They are also French.

So am I... (And I also encourage child labour tbh, but just mine

).

Jac459 · Post by **Jac459** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:52 am

3ptguitarist wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:18 pm What can pigments 5 do that Dune 3, Massive X, and Ableton Wavetable can't do? I'm trying to see if I should buy it for $69 or not.

Really, you are hesitating to buy pigment 5 at 69$??
Just close the eyes and press the button!

As it was said before, 4 major reasons:
1. It goes way beyond wavetable with additive, granular, FM, etc... And excellent filters and effects.
2. Arturia has demonstrated a top level support of it with continuous free upgrades.
3. A praised modern and practical UI. (Love it or not, it is a good UI).
4. It is one of the "king" synths like Serum or Diva so the number of external materials like YouTube tutorials or presets is huge.

wvshpr · Post by **wvshpr** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:48 am

aMUSEd wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:23 pm Great additive and granular for a start

Multiple synth engines with cross modulation between them all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsO8FtjTjt4

Additive is very limited.

You can not cross modulate Samples with VA, wavetables or additive.

Pigments is best viewed as the best MPE capable granular synth with a variety of good filters. It's really average at everything else due to the flat sound of the VA, Additive and Wavetable engines.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:02 pm

wvshpr wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:48 am
aMUSEd wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:23 pm Great additive and granular for a start

Multiple synth engines with cross modulation between them all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsO8FtjTjt4

Additive is very limited.

You can not cross modulate Samples with VA, wavetables or additive.

Pigments is best viewed as the best MPE capable granular synth with a variety of good filters. It's really average at everything else due to the flat sound of the VA, Additive and Wavetable engines.

"Flat sound of the wavetable and additive engines".

I thought I've heard all the absurd things regarding oscillators in synths. But this statement wins them all. Congratulations!

Wavetable engine plays whatever you want it to play. Any waveform from any synth. Want to play MS20 or MiniMoog raw saw waveform? Just import it.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:02 pm

The additive is pretty deep actually and has a unique approach (closest I can think of is Parsec). And you can cross modulate the sample engine with the harmonic. Doing it right now. You are entitled to believe it sounds 'flat' but I don't, I am always delighted by the sounds I get from it.

wvshpr · Post by **wvshpr** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:10 pm

Igro wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:02 pm
"Flat sound of the wavetable and additive engines".

I thought I've heard all the absurd things regarding oscillators in synths. But this statement wins them all.

Well, it's all relative. I'm comparing it to Alchemy (additive), Serum (wavetables + additive editor) and Massive X (wavetables) which are incredibly flexible engines.

So yes, all in all, quite good, but better alternatives are also out there.

Arturia Pigments 5 out now