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sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:33 am

Super Piano Hater 64 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:14 pm None that are strictly CLAP-only, but certainly some which aren't available in VST. Most of these, for example: https://nakst.itch.io

wow. never seen anyone ever developing for FL's own plugin format... kudos for that

wikter · Post by **wikter** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:54 pm

sQeetz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:33 am
Super Piano Hater 64 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:14 pm None that are strictly CLAP-only, but certainly some which aren't available in VST. Most of these, for example: https://nakst.itch.io
wow. never seen anyone ever developing for FL's own plugin format... kudos for that

It's never too late to find the world out there...

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:56 pm

wikter wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:54 pm
sQeetz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:33 am
Super Piano Hater 64 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:14 pm None that are strictly CLAP-only, but certainly some which aren't available in VST. Most of these, for example: https://nakst.itch.io
wow. never seen anyone ever developing for FL's own plugin format... kudos for that
It's never too late to find the world out there...

I mean... FL is pretty popular. Wonder why there isn't more of those.
IIRC FL native plugs have some perks over VST like per note automation and such

jinxtigr · Post by **jinxtigr** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:31 pm

defiantnerd wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:42 am In the meantime, the clap-wrapper project allows you to use any CLAP plugin in Logic and Cubase. It is very lightweight (<500k binary size)

heh

If you know, you know.

I confess to being curious if it's possible to do a full port to GUI-less CLAP, as in 'for Mac, Windows and Linux, the way my retro and signed stuff is made'. I once had a CLAP all-in-one plugin made, but it was not maintainable the way the VCV Rack port is, and so I don't talk about it anymore. I don't like not fully supporting a format. I've never looked into whether there even IS a GUI-less, just-the-sliders format for CLAP.

If there was, well then I could show you what very lightweight really means

No_Use · Post by **No_Use** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:21 pm

jinxtigr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:31 pm I've never looked into whether there even IS a GUI-less, just-the-sliders format for CLAP.

If there was, well then I could show you what very lightweight really means

There is, e.g.
https://github.com/nofishonfriday/Lauri ... reo-plugin

baconpaul · Post by **baconpaul** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:01 pm

jinxtigr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:31 pm
If there was, well then I could show you what very lightweight really means

https://github.com/baconpaul/clap-c99-d ... stortion.c

Did i never share this with you chris? That's a pure c (like compiles without a c++ compiler) no gui no external code except for clap implementation of a bad distortion.

it's still on my list to make a side-by-side of the single CLAP with a UI plugin from your stuff exactly the way I did rack. I should just do that one day and set up 'the button' and everything just like we did for VCV.

baconpaul · Post by **baconpaul** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:33 pm

Chris - check out surge discord for an idea about the above - let’s not discuss it on this … peculiar … thread here!

jinxtigr · Post by **jinxtigr** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:21 am

baconpaul wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:01 pm
jinxtigr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:31 pm
If there was, well then I could show you what very lightweight really means
https://github.com/baconpaul/clap-c99-d ... stortion.c

Did i never share this with you chris? That's a pure c (like compiles without a c++ compiler) no gui no external code except for clap implementation of a bad distortion.

it's still on my list to make a side-by-side of the single CLAP with a UI plugin from your stuff exactly the way I did rack. I should just do that one day and set up 'the button' and everything just like we did for VCV.

Oh neat

it still won't make me go 'bye bye VST2' any more than it's making me go 'bye bye compiling retro AUs that run on PPC Macs'.

I love the pid_MIX ID

If you decide to do something like that, maybe you should do a form of the c99-style one arranged so it's fairly obvious where you'd bring over the VST2/DSP code and adapt it. And then point me at it and let me hand-code for months until I have everything individually ported

anyway talk to you on Surge Discord

nanostream · Post by **nanostream** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:22 am

Fors just released their latest plugin as CLAP and AU(v2) only, macOS only as well. Seems like a risky strategy, but their m4l-only plugins did well enough in the past, so they might be able to pull it off.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:47 pm

nanostream wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:22 am Fors just released their latest plugin as CLAP and AU(v2) only, macOS only as well. Seems like a risky strategy, but their m4l-only plugins did well enough in the past, so they might be able to pull it off.

Fors Tela is a nice little plugin... I'm using the CLAP version in Bitwig.

Bye bye VST2