Where? Pretty please
Amigo Sampler - 8-Bit Amiga Style Sampler Plugin
- KVRAF
- 16399 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
He always seemed like a demoscene/tracker kind of guy. Plus, samples were so hard to come by back then, I bet he got them from anywhere he could find. Probably scoured the BBS's.mcbpete wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:19 pm Anyone who used an Amiga for making music would've used those ST-xx disks. Heck probably like 80-90 % of games and demoscene tracks until around '89/'90 used pretty much nothing but ST-01 and ST-02 (though I believe Liam used a Roland W30 as his main sampler/sequencer back in the day - not to say the samples weren't taken from there, but it it could be the ST sound sources originated from the same place Liam took his samples from too!)
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- KVRian
- 600 posts since 8 Jan, 2022
ampetrosillo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:43 pmAs said earlier, top of the range Amigas could reach 57kHz, 14bit. So it is not really much beyond the scope of the plugin and it would be a matter of adding a small button. I used to play with Amiga emulators back in the day and you could essentially play with the different chipsets (and also "pimp your machine", so to speak) and it was fair game.kraster wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:22 pmNowhere does the plugin claim to be an emulation of old school samplers in general.ampetrosillo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:05 pm It's just that it is an artistic limitation that is not necessarily "period-correct", and there would be a way to make it more period-correct (even with the addition of the AKAI-style stretching, while still retaining the Amiga feel). But I myself said earlier that it was not a 100% necessary addition, it's a "nice to have" addition that costs literally zero for the devs (it's just a matter of lifting a limit).
This is a very specific emulation of a particular chipset's sound.
90s Jungle, Demo scene, tracker stuff.
Amiga sampling always sounded a bit rough with tons of aliasing and quantization noise. That's the point of this plugin.
Once you start adding features you start moving away from the original vision. As has been previously mentioned something like TAL sampler or even TAL DAC is designed to emulate more diverse samplers.
As for the "costs literally zero", the dev already alluded to it having an effect on CPU consumption so it's not like there is no technical cost.
Amigas weren't known for high bit depth high sample rates. That's not what the aesthetic of this plugin is about. It's all about the grit and the crunch of the lower sample rate/ lower bit depth DMA output
The higher sample rates/bit depth were a very special use case that needed graphics cards or different screen resolution.
Also the filters sat in front of those so it was always going to sound muddy.
That's not the aesthetic here.
I mean what's the point if you're just going to make it sound like any other sampler.
With all due respect to the developers as a sampler it's passable. The USP is the lo-fi nature of it.
- KVRAF
- 16399 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
It’s quite nice for digging short snippets out of samples. Easier/faster to use for this than Kontakt and TAL Sampler. It reminds me quite a bit of using my Akai S612, which - ta da! - was 4khz to 32khz.
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- KVRian
- 758 posts since 5 Jun, 2001
i'm probably being extremely stupid, but how do you load these in Amigo?mcbpete wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:02 pmHow about 115 disks worth
https://archive.org/details/AmigaSTXX
they don't show up when i click load in Amigo, the Mirage one's do
they don't show up in the DAW browser either
help an idiot out please, cheers
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- KVRAF
- 3528 posts since 1 Sep, 2016
Drag and dropemef wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:17 pmi'm probably being extremely stupid, but how do you load these in Amigo?mcbpete wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:02 pmHow about 115 disks worth
https://archive.org/details/AmigaSTXX
they don't show up when i click load in Amigo, the Mirage one's do
they don't show up in the DAW browser either
help an idiot out please, cheers
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- KVRian
- 758 posts since 5 Jun, 2001
- KVRAF
- 16399 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
It's currently the best you can hope for. Ask developer to fix, then prepare to be attacked for daring to ask for something so outlandish.
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- KVRAF
- 2303 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Lotta bitching and moaning & general self-righteous entitlement over a freaking 13 dollar plugin.
- KVRAF
- 40267 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
If you've got 13 dollars to throw away I know a good cause you could donate to. Me.
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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- KVRAF
- 2087 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
I don't remember doing this but it looks like at one point in the past I used a batch renaming tool ( https://www.1-4a.com/rename/ ) to add .iff to the end of all the file names in the collection (Might've done it so I could the samples into Plogue's Chipsounds). Then you can select it with the 'Load' button within the VSTi (failing that just the 'drag and drop' method should provide a more hassle free workaround)
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- KVRAF
- 8496 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
Vortifex wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:14 pmDamn, this site has all the 90s sample CDs. For totally personal non-commercial use, of coursemcbpete wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:02 pmHow about 115 disks worth
https://archive.org/details/AmigaSTXX
it says
https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/
so it is freely usable?
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- KVRAF
- 3983 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
A lot of stuff still under copyright gets uploaded to archive.org.Caine123 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:35 am it says
https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/
so it is freely usable?
I wouldn't use what you mentioned as proof to the contrary.
A well-behaved signature.