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TDOT ThEoRy · Post by **TDOT ThEoRy** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:18 am

whats up everybody, just wondering how many ppl use vst i to make hip hop. i'm thinking about getting a midi controller instead of a synth but i'm having trouble finding good vst's for hip hop any body know any good ones and i'm also finding it hard to get good drums for hip hop through vst every sound sounds out dated any feedback would help greatly.

thanks

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:47 am

You will learn at KVR that there is no "Hip Hop Vsti". There are ways to get hip hop sounds out of many vsti's, but I doubt many designers made their VST with hip hop in mind. First off, what kind of VST are you looking for? a synth? Drum machine? effect? Sampler?

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:28 am

Ok, I usually don't reply to these, but today caught me on a good one...

Basically it boils down to two options:

1) Construction kits. Lots of fun for a "look at me! I'm making hip hop!" approach. Really quick as well, and no need to actually learn anything. Otherwise limited, and not as satisfying as doing it from scratch.

2) Do it yourself. This is how "real" hip hop is made. Any instrument can be used for hip hop, but you will have to do some work to shape it to your taste.

Forever,

Kim.

TDOT ThEoRy · Post by **TDOT ThEoRy** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:44 am

i'm lookin for both syth and drums

Trusty · Post by **Trusty** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:45 am

For an all computer hip-hop set-up, I would get the following programs:

FL5 Producer's Edition for sequencing:
LinPlug RM IV for drums, (and a sample CD from eBay with a ton of drum .wav files...they usually cost $9.99)
Sampletank2 or Proteus X
MiniMoog V

That will keep you busy for years.

Also download the free synths Superwave and Synth1 from this site and you'll be set for any kind of hip-hop you would ever want to do.

Then of course you will need vinyl, a turntable, monitors, and a midi controller. Maybe a mic, preamp, and a soundcard as well.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:11 am

I forget the address, but there's a website that contains HQ samples of every popular Drum machine, including Roland's TR series. This would be very helpful. Anyone remember the URL?

Draagen · Post by **Draagen** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:21 am

Hip Hop aint music.

: )

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:24 am

Chase wrote:I forget the address, but there's a website that contains HQ samples of every popular Drum machine, including Roland's TR series. This would be very helpful. Anyone remember the URL?

maybe
http://www.hollowsun.com/vintage/index.html

or
http://www.vintagesynth.org/index2.html

I've also found drum synth packs at

http://www.modarchive.com/

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:29 am

ouroboros wrote:
Chase wrote:I forget the address, but there's a website that contains HQ samples of every popular Drum machine, including Roland's TR series. This would be very helpful. Anyone remember the URL?
maybe
http://www.hollowsun.com/vintage/index.html

or
http://www.vintagesynth.org/index2.html

I've also found drum synth packs at

http://www.modarchive.com/

It was none of those. this is gonna drive me insane. It's on the mega sample sit list, but that doesn't exactly narrow it down.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:31 am

Here it is:
http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

For rap/hip hop, get the roland tr-808/909 samples.

Kraku · Post by **Kraku** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:35 am

I've recognized from a couple of hiphop songs that there's DR-008 creating at lest some of the beats. For example the Usher's music video where the guy's standing on some stage with a black background and there are blue lasers and stuff... In that song there's definitely DR-008's claps in the mix.

I've spotted one or two more of those in the last couple of months, but I can't remember the songs, since I generally don't like hiphop

casio hardcore · Post by **casio hardcore** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:04 am

Draagen wrote:Hip Hop aint music.

: )

Now theres something clever that has never been said before. You should win poster of the week hands down.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:20 pm

Depends what type of hiphop you're into I suppose, but I would have thought a decent sample player would be the first major requirement. Lots and lots of samples being used in hiphop that I hear - or vinyl being messed about with - either way, a sampler can do it.

The ones that actually play their own music seem to veer more towards R'n'B etc.

And anyway, whatsisname is right....it ain't music...it's just shouting over the top of somebody else's record innit?

Armadillo · Post by **Armadillo** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:26 pm

The only dedicated hip hop vsti I know of is Plugsound vol. 4 - hip hop toolkit.
Great drums and bass, decent ep/rhodes, synths and fx are not that good imo.

declassified · Post by **declassified** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:34 pm

Oh please, don't get charmed by these "toolkit" crap!

Like Jeez already said, they'll give you "that cool instant hip hop sound" like putting instant noodles into a microwave.
If you want instant sound, go for the toolkits and drum libraries. But someone browsing the presets of a loop library and getting his melodies out of a MIDI file library ain't a musician. Keep that in mind.

hip hip beats