You're right, here : http://www.simple-media.co.uk/music/vst ... tringthingShamanix wrote:... Ok actually I'm 100% sure it is something else
Just what kinds of instruments do people really want?
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- KVRist
- 350 posts since 7 Sep, 2004 from UK
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 775 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Hull, United Kingdom
Super String Thing...Shamanix wrote:SST ???? What is that ?
Have a better one - Saul Cross 
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
I'll love to see a Roland D-50 & an Oberheim OB-8 VSTi soon.saulc12 wrote:Just a short poll here.
It occurs to me that the market is full to bursting with specific analogue emulations and virtual analogue synths on one side and romplers on the other. The middle ground between the two being relatively bare. And of course, cannot deny that these instruments keep coming and keep getting the sales. But is analogue sound and sample/synthesis all we want or are there other avenues to explore?
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- KVRist
- 287 posts since 30 Dec, 2004 from Austin, Tejas - What do you want on YOUR breakfast taco?
Second on the D-50, but it would need to have the PG-1000 programmer built into the GUI....no need to replicate the pain in the ass of trying to program a sound using menus in the virtual world....TVD wrote:I'll love to see a Roland D-50 & an Oberheim OB-8 VSTi soon.saulc12 wrote:Just a short poll here.
It occurs to me that the market is full to bursting with specific analogue emulations and virtual analogue synths on one side and romplers on the other. The middle ground between the two being relatively bare. And of course, cannot deny that these instruments keep coming and keep getting the sales. But is analogue sound and sample/synthesis all we want or are there other avenues to explore?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 775 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Hull, United Kingdom
Not just a bounce to this thread, but more to just ask - after the excitement of NAMM and some more recent developments and anouncements it looks like the market is still not seeing any major change in the types of products being developed (with a couple of notable exceptions), so once again what kind of synths do people want?
Would be interesting to see if the voting changes...
Would be interesting to see if the voting changes...
Have a better one - Saul Cross
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- KVRist
- 377 posts since 16 Apr, 2004 from Antwerp
First they have to stop showing R&B on all music channels here in europe. Then I hope it's back to physical modelling. First step could be easier control of bows, slides and things...(the human touch)
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- Banned
- 12368 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
show me the ROMStkmattson wrote: Second on the D-50
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRist
- 257 posts since 7 Mar, 2005
i have a korg oasys PCI and the problem for getting realistic sounds isnt the models, they sound dam real.
http://www.korg.com/audio/synths/silver ... flute).mp3
http://www.korg.com/audio/synths/jazz_t ... umpet).mp3
the problem is thats almost impossible to recreate without a wind controller. Your not going to be able to recreate a sound like that by just hitting a note on a keyboard. Even if someone created the ultimate physical modelling vst plug it would probly not do so well if advertised that it can make totally realistic sounds because people would still need to learn to play the model just like the real instrument. I believe thats pretty much what took down the VL and oasys(besides the absurd prices)
What i think would be a cool synth is a physical modelling synth thats aimed at doing stuff like absynth, just bizarre organic sounds.
http://www.korg.com/audio/synths/silver ... flute).mp3
http://www.korg.com/audio/synths/jazz_t ... umpet).mp3
the problem is thats almost impossible to recreate without a wind controller. Your not going to be able to recreate a sound like that by just hitting a note on a keyboard. Even if someone created the ultimate physical modelling vst plug it would probly not do so well if advertised that it can make totally realistic sounds because people would still need to learn to play the model just like the real instrument. I believe thats pretty much what took down the VL and oasys(besides the absurd prices)
What i think would be a cool synth is a physical modelling synth thats aimed at doing stuff like absynth, just bizarre organic sounds.
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- KVRist
- 211 posts since 27 Feb, 2005
I'm voting for "specialized synth" here. I would like to see more synths that do one thing and do it well.
Not necessarily emulate an existing (acoustic) instrument, either. There was a discussion some time ago about MDA's piano emulator, where it was described as "kinda-sorta like a piano but not quite, but had its own personality". More of that kind of instruments would be nice: take one basic sound with a strong personality (maybe piano, maybe some synthetic sound), and create an instrument around it with a few interesting parameters to tweak. No need for it to go from koto to cello, no need for filters or effects here. (Well, a built-in EQ would be useful.)
On second thought: Maybe I should have voted for the "new sounds"? But id does include "multiple instruments," which I'm not too crazy for... I'm not sure I understand 100% the options in the poll, o well...
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Not necessarily emulate an existing (acoustic) instrument, either. There was a discussion some time ago about MDA's piano emulator, where it was described as "kinda-sorta like a piano but not quite, but had its own personality". More of that kind of instruments would be nice: take one basic sound with a strong personality (maybe piano, maybe some synthetic sound), and create an instrument around it with a few interesting parameters to tweak. No need for it to go from koto to cello, no need for filters or effects here. (Well, a built-in EQ would be useful.)
On second thought: Maybe I should have voted for the "new sounds"? But id does include "multiple instruments," which I'm not too crazy for... I'm not sure I understand 100% the options in the poll, o well...
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- KVRist
- 211 posts since 27 Feb, 2005
I used to play sax for a while and you use a number of muscles in your mouth/ face/ chest/ shoulders to control how it sounds. I think that's going to be difficult to model on software.knot0fvipers wrote: the problem is thats almost impossible to recreate without a wind controller. Your not going to be able to recreate a sound like that by just hitting a note on a keyboard.
Maybe you could model not the sound of a "sax" but of a "saxophonist that always plays the same style". You would need some type of AI to determine the style (have the virtual sax player know when to slur or not, when to play harder or softer, etc., in real time). You would then play something on your keyboard and the machine would interpret it.
If done right, it would sound realistic. However, the keyboard player wouldn't have much control.
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