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herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:59 pm

tuz · Post by **tuz** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:50 pm

this is excellent man. interesting to hear it with synthesizers. i'm turkish so i'm very close to the area's music. i read your post at audiotorium but i have no idea what you're talking about

. lack of technicality on my part. but for future reference, you could listen to any gypsy music that involves a hammered dulcimer (cymbalom). it will surely broaden your view on how this type of thing can be done.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:46 am

tuz wrote:this is excellent man. interesting to hear it with synthesizers. i'm turkish so i'm very close to the area's music. i read your post at audiotorium but i have no idea what you're talking about . lack of technicality on my part. but for future reference, you could listen to any gypsy music that involves a hammered dulcimer (cymbalom). it will surely broaden your view on how this type of thing can be done.

glad you liked it.

I am afraid that my knowledge of 'bulgarian' rhythm is mostly limited to Bartok.

His 'Mikrokosmos' contains several pieces called "Dance in Bulgarian rhythm".

Some are in a sort of 9 (2+2+2+3) and some in a sort of 7 (2+2+3).

The latter is what this peice is 'against'.

tuz · Post by **tuz** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:54 am

you should definitely add to this. would love to hear it orchestrated.

fateamenabletochange · Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:21 am

stick one of those jon bonham outtakes to it.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:28 am

fateamenabletochange wrote:stick one of those jon bonham outtakes to it.

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:14 am

herodotus wrote:
fateamenabletochange wrote:stick one of those jon bonham outtakes to it.

Yeah, and then overlay it with some of that intelligent rap that I keep hearing about, but never actually hear.

Seriously though, I do like this quite a bit. I find myself liking quite a lot of your material.

take care,
McLilith

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:39 pm

McLilith wrote:
Seriously though, I do like this quite a bit. I find myself liking quite a lot of your material.

Why thank you sir!

Glad you liked it.

coolpillows · Post by **coolpillows** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:40 pm

definitely interesting...i kept waiting for the dance rhythms to kick in...i admit i got hooked to this from polyrhythms in the subject expecting some kinda' afropop...i'm hearing some female vocal ululations above this, among other things.......and maybe a low droning bass???

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:27 pm

coolpillows wrote:definitely interesting...i kept waiting for the dance rhythms to kick in...i admit i got hooked to this from polyrhythms in the subject expecting some kinda' afropop...i'm hearing some female vocal ululations above this, among other things.......and maybe a low droning bass???

I am glad you liked it.

Something like what you are describing is a long contemplated project of mine.

My entry in this months contest is something like you describe.

Thanks for listening!

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:31 pm

This is intense Herodotus, and beyond my technical skills. I have to ask; do you hear these rhthyms, imagining them first, or do they emerge from a simpler set of rules that guide the creation? Cool stuff.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:47 pm

ouroboros wrote:This is intense Herodotus, and beyond my technical skills. I have to ask; do you hear these rhthyms, imagining them first, or do they emerge from a simpler set of rules that guide the creation? Cool stuff.

The set of rules is the basic arithmetic structure that dictates that x repetitions of a meter with y beats is precisely equivalent to y repetitions of a meter with x beats

After that its just a matter of picking familiar patterns and lining them up.

The hard part in a piece like this (for me at least) lies not in the rhythm but in the harmony. My early attempts at this stuff were really really dissonant. And not in a good way.

Glad you liked it.

Thanks for listening!

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:49 pm

Oh, what the hell.

blaster78 · Post by **blaster78** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:56 pm

unusual, some great melodies in here..... rolling off a bit of the cutoff (possibly on an lfo) might give it a bit more seperation as would some auto panning.

cool tho.

steve.

ps. deep strings would sound cool......

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:33 pm

blaster78 wrote:unusual, some great melodies in here..... rolling off a bit of the cutoff (possibly on an lfo) might give it a bit more seperation as would some auto panning.

cool tho.

steve.

ps. deep strings would sound cool......

Thanks for listening!

And pleased to meet you!

A big ol' steamin vat of polyrhythms