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Project 5
Project5 is a complete software synthesizer workstation.

Project5 goes beyond stand-alone soft-synth "rack" software by providing a complete studio environment. It gives electronic musicians everything they need to experiment, create, and perform music using integrated sequencers, software synths, samplers, audio and MIDI effects, and audio looping tools — all integrated in one workstation. In addition Project5 provides advanced capabilities for synth layering, real-time pattern genesis and triggering, and a seamless live-performance audio engine.

And Project5 doesn't put a limit on your creativity. It lets you customize and expand your studio with additional plug-ins, and it supports any Windows-compatible audio hardware.

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Agitated State updates MenuMagic Plug-In Manager (Cakewalk DAWs version) to v0.9.10.7 beta 28th August 2007
Cakewalk updates Project5 to v2.5.1 21st June 2007
Cakewalk releases Project5 v2.5 25th April 2007
Agitated State updates MenuMagic Plug-In Manager to v0.9.5.30 beta 19th March 2007
Agitated State announces MenuMagic Plug-In Manager (for Cakewalk DAWs) 6th March 2007
Cakewalk announces Project5 v2.5 18th January 2007
Cakewalk announces Holiday Giveaway Extravaganza 7th December 2006
Cakewalk announces free Update for Project5 (+reduces price) 8th August 2006
Cakewalk releases Project5 v2.0.1 20th June 2005
Project5 Version 2's MUSIC.INSPIRED TOUR hits over 80 locations worldwide 24th May 2005
Cakewalk announces availability of Project5 v2.0 6th April 2005
Cakewalk unveils Project5 v2.0 20th January 2005
Cakewalk Project5 v1.5 released 5th February 2004
Cakewalk announces free Project5 v1.5 update 20th January 2004
Cakewalk Launches Project5.com 22nd December 2003
Competition: Win a free year's subscription to Music Tech Magazine! 5th August 2003
Cakewalk Project 5 updated to v1.01 18th July 2003
Cakewalk Project 5 demo available 7th May 2003
Cakewalk Project 5 released 26th March 2003
Cakewalk Project5 to be unveiled @ NAMM 15th January 2003

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By oroboros
On 22nd February 2007
Version: 2.0.1

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I've been using Project5 since v1.0, so I'm very familiar with it; I've probably clocked over 1000 hours with it, by now. Since I don't play a physical instrument, don't sing, don't record audio (though P5 can), and make primarily synth-centric songs, I didn't see the need for any of the more full-featured, "traditional" audio-centric hosts, such as Sonar, Cubase, Logic, etc.

First of all, as syrath says, P5 is not set up like a traditional DAW. Having said that, this can also be a blessing in disguise. Inserting instruments and modifying midi data is about as quick as I've ever seen in any host. Which highlights P5's major strength - workflow. If you want to get an idea down before you forget it, P5 is perfect. It includes enough instruments, especially with Dimension, to get any idea mostly down, without having to purchase external gear (but of course, you will, anyway). After this point - getting the idea mainly down, you might need another application. Or not. Some people mix completely within P5, myself included, to quality results. Many musicians, though, instead start their projects with P5, and then master in another - using P5 as a sort of audio "sketch pad". P5 for speed of creation, some other app for the fine tuning and "mastering".

Which brings us to the main question of, "What does P5 shine at?" Answer: Midi workflow. Nothing, in my opinion, is faster or more convenient than P5 in this area. I own or have used: Reason, FLStudio, Live, ACID, ProTools M-Powered, and SONAR. P5 is the quickest and most flexible when it comes to Midi manipulation, of all of these, in my opinion. It is the ONE THING that P5 does better than anything else.

To try to explain this as best I can, P5 operates based upon a "pattern clip" system, where you can copy and paste clips of notes, Midi data, or instrument/effect data - instead of individual notes or data - wherever you want them. This distinction, which perhaps seems insignificant at first, can completely change your workflow. For example, if you wanted to change all versions of a particular section in your song, changing just one clip in your song will change the midi patterns of all identical copies of that clip (aliases of that clip, if you will) in *all* sections of your song. No longer will you need to go through, modifying your song measure by measure, note by note, starting at the beginning and moving slowly through to the end. One change, in one clip - and all copies of this clip throughout your song are also changed. Bam, done. You can also put automation in these clips, then cut-and-paste these automation clips wherever you want one - without having to recreate an automation pattern over and over again. Or in other words, make once, use many. Fast. Or you can create a spinoff version of a current clip - with all of its current properties - and then change only the parts you want to from there, without having to start from scratch again - just modify the parts you want. Speedy. Clips can contain nearly all forms of Midi or instrument data within them - notes, velocity, pan, instrument automation, effect automation, effect values, instrument values, basically anything accessible and/or modifiable from the host. If you want, you can include all information within one clip, or separate this data out into many clips, each with its own specific type of data, and cut-and-paste these clips wherever you need them to be. Don't like a change? - select, delete, done - no messing with curves, or spending the time to recreate what was there before. Decide to change something after doing a bunch of other things, such that you can't use undo? Not a problem with clips - just change the clip. Swap one clip for another, mix and match, move clips in and out of use, try different ideas NON-DESTRUCTIVELY - just move in new clips and preview. Bam, your idea is down. Bam, your song changes. Bam, change one clip, changes happen to all alias clips instantly. Faaaast. No other way of modifying Midi/automation data, IMO, is even remotely as close to as fast. This is the one thing P5 shines at and does better than anybody else, bar none.

Where P5 fails, however, is in audio/sample use. While P5 does record audio (added in v2), it's included audio manipulation features are, to put it bluntly, primitive at best. You *will* need an external audio tool if you plan on doing any sort of serious audio manipulation. Also, unlike the majority of non-traditional "alternative" hosts out there these days ...

Since you seem to have made it this far, and as KVR would only allow 5000 characters max for reviews and mine was closer to 14000, for the rest of this review, go here ...

http://kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2396246

... or do a search for 'Project5 Review' under the 'Hosts' forum, with my user name. There you can read the rest, which goes into far greater detail - including the good, the bad, and the odd about Project5.
 
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By syrath
On 13th February 2007
Version: 2.01

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Straight from the start Project5 does things a little differently. Although it is capable of recording audio and using loops its strength lies in its excellent midi editing and in its handling of soft synths. It is very much like an open host Reason.

It can work with VST(currently through a wrapper, but soon to be natively within the host), or DX plug ins.

The bundled instruments are very usable. Its flagship is Dimension, programmed by Rene from RGC Audio (now employed by Cakewalk), this is basically a cut down version of Dimension Pro. There are very few major differences between them, the main one being the bundled version has 3 GB of content. Where as Dimension Pro comes with much more. Project5 users are treated to a cheap upgrade to the full Dimension Pro.

PSYN II , also programmed by Rene, is an excellent subtractive synthesizer. Billed as a virtual analog syntheziser it is more than capable of a diverse and varied soundset.

Roland Groovesynth is a synth that conatins the genuine Roland sounds which includes the sounds of the 808 and 909 drum kits.

nPulse is an electronic drum machine in a similar vein to the 808.

Velocity is a multi out, multi layer drum sampler that is also capable of loading many of the LM4 drum kits that are out there. It also has a variety of synthesis tools available to it.

Cyclone is a ACID loop playback tool.

Finally we have the DS864 sampler. In my own opinion this sampler is worst included plug in. It was included in the original P5 V1, and now pales in the shadow of Dimension.

It should be noted that Dimension itself has one of the clearest sounding engines in the business. Capable of sounds with much less aliasing than many of the much more expensive commercial samplers on the market.

Beyond being able to work with ACID loops, when it comes to audio, Project5 comes with only the most basic of tools. If recording audio is all you do then Project5 might not be for you.

The user interface itself takes a little bit of getting used to, for instance, it has no traditional mixer. However all the mixing functions you need are available very quickly should you need them. The learning curve is not particularly steep, but because of the way it works you may find yourself spending the first couple of days scratching your head.

Perhaps the most major highlight of Project5 is the Groove Matrix. This tool alone makes Project5 worth getting, its an improvisational compositional (and live) playback tool. It allows you to pretty much compose a whole song from the patterns you have available, while you are playing it. Messing with this can be great fun, while at the same time being very productive.

The bundled FX includes

Alias Factor- Bit/sample crushing plug in with a filter
Tempo Delay- A tempo synced stereo delay
Classic Phaser
Compressor/Gate
HF (High Frequency) Exciter
Modfilter- A modulation filter
Multivoice Chorus/Flanger
Para-Q - a two band parametric eq
Spectral Transformer - This effect is unique it is an effect that passes the signal through phase vocoder before sending it through various transformations before resulting in a new sound.
Studioverb II - A very usable reverb plugin.

Unfortunately it lacks any form of mastering plug ins. Instead relying on you to use your own.

At the moment it is limited to only 4 busses , all of which are post fader. This will change with the release of version 2.5 which is currently due for release in April 2007 and will be available free to all P5 users.

The price listed on the page is also incorrect. Project5 has seen a drop in price with a current street price of under $200. Currently Dimension Pro has a retail price of $329. So its actually a pretty good deal when you consider that Dimension itself has about half the conent of Dimension Pro and you qualify for a cheaper upgrade to Dimension Pro itself.

To sum up, Project5 is a very capable host, that works in quite a different way to normal. If you take the time to master it you will discover an that it provides excellent workflow while working with soft synths, and or loops. Its also capable of doing the odd bit of audio recording, but any audio editing you require would have to be done in an external editor.
 
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