Tracktion Software

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:04 am

Frankly, I just can't believe this.

How is it possible that the third main version of the resurrected Tracktion can't guarantee the single most fundamental prerequisite of a DAW: recording integrity under all circumstances?

In its current state, T cannot be considered a serious tool. It may be acceptable for hobbyists to lose some guitar or VI noodling. But what if someone should get the ill advised idea to use Tracktion for, say, recording a concert?

How is it even possible that sexy new features have been allowed to take precedence over the most important aspect of all?

I'd be interested to see what TSC is going to do to restore confidence in what is apparently a seriously compromised product.

/Joachim

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:10 am

It's a bug that wasn't present in the previous version, that's all, I think the underlying problem is TSC need to strengthen their beta testing process which is clearly not fit for purpose.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:18 am

Spitfire31 wrote:Frankly, I just can't believe this.

How is it possible that the third main version of the resurrected Tracktion can't guarantee the single most fundamental prerequisite of a DAW: recording integrity under all circumstances?

Significant bugs can get introduced to the most mature software. As aMUSEd says, I think its more a question of beta testing.
TBH, the fact that T6 includes a T5 license makes me think that, T6 is 'internally' seen by TSC as being in a bit of a beta state. I guess that needs clarified.

TSC wrote:We have combined T5/6 licenses so folk who want field tested stability can run T5 and still explore and experiment with the V1.0 of T6 while it becomes field stabilized!

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:27 am

Very well. But I can't remember such a potentially disastrous bug having been introduced in Logic, Digital Performer or Live, for as long as I've been using them.

It's a major confidence spoiler, IMO.

/Joachim

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:24 pm

Yes, I moved the Tracktion window and it stopped playing , so yes this is different then T5, I'm sure TSC will get it fixed . Another thing I noticed is the metronome while recording can't be turned on if its off or turned off when its on . Kind if funny .

Kang · Post by **Kang** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:47 pm

I'd like to add another note from when I was testing.

I noticed a few times when I had two tracks set up and enabled, that when I hit record one of them disappeared and only one track started recording. I would stop, pull the input that disappeared up again, enable it, and hit record and like clockwork the OTHER input would disappear. Pulled that one up again and the third time it would always work. This happened only once or twice out of many attempts, but if anyone wants to try to recreate it, it might be worth looking into.

chico.co.uk · Post by **chico.co.uk** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:22 pm

Spitfire31 wrote:Very well. But I can't remember such a potentially disastrous bug having been introduced in Logic, Digital Performer or Live, for as long as I've been using them.

It's a major confidence spoiler, IMO.

/Joachim

It's a bug. Nobody did it on purpose. It'll get fixed.

It's pointless saying "I can't remember this kind of bug in X software", because X software will have their own list of bugs, that got through, then got fixed. Which may or may not have affected you, on your hardware, in the way you work, or didn't affect you at all.

If you want to help get it fixed, do, but screaming "WHY OH WHY OH WHY" doesn't move anything forward

klangbastler · Post by **klangbastler** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:39 pm

i am glad to see, that the dedication of some here for finding the issue, brought some light into this!
thanks for that!!

i hope this will lead to getting t6 fully stable again in that regard.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:08 pm

klangbastler wrote:i am glad to see, that the dedication of some here for finding the issue, brought some light into this!
thanks for that!!

i hope this will lead to getting t6 fully stable again in that regard.

Nah, we should all just use Audacity.

BushmasterM4 · Post by **BushmasterM4** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:19 pm

Have you tried running T6 in admin mode ? Do so and see if you get the same results.

pough · Post by **pough** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:53 pm

Spitfire31 wrote:How is it possible that the third main version of the resurrected Tracktion can't guarantee the single most fundamental prerequisite of a DAW: recording integrity under all circumstances?

I would imagine it's because they've just implemented the real-time audio waveform drawings that people have been asking for and then they didn't test under unusual circumstances like very long recordings or switching tabs while recording.

It's a painful bug to discover, though.

jabe · Post by **jabe** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:54 am

VariousArtists wrote:
jabe wrote:Audacity may be more suited to this task.
I'm afraid, old bean, in your wish to help see the O.P. accomplish his task, you've missed the point by the odd light-year or three. We will, of course, have to remind you of this several more times before the thread ends.

I did indeed miss the point. In my defence, I have recently been using Audacity on a glacially slow PC to record some radio progs (shhhh!) that I used to be able to download with no effort. At the moment, only some decreasingly baffling VB code is stopping me from doing so again.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:08 am

chico.co.uk wrote:
Spitfire31 wrote:Very well. But I can't remember such a potentially disastrous bug having been introduced in Logic, Digital Performer or Live, for as long as I've been using them.

It's a major confidence spoiler, IMO.

/Joachim
It's a bug. Nobody did it on purpose. It'll get fixed.

It's pointless saying "I can't remember this kind of bug in X software", because X software will have their own list of bugs, that got through, then got fixed. Which may or may not have affected you, on your hardware, in the way you work, or didn't affect you at all.

If you want to help get it fixed, do, but screaming "WHY OH WHY OH WHY" doesn't move anything forward

First: Are you insinuating that I screamed "WHY OH WHY OH WHY" anywhere? Please support your allegation by quoting, verbatim, that post. Otherwise, it's a misrepresentation and an insult. So, take it back, please.

Second: It's not "a bug". It's a mother of bugs – one that can irrevocably compromise a potentially critical recording that you just made.

Third, and my main point: The fact that TSC, through obvious skimping on beta testing, allows such a potentially crippling bug slip through, reveals a lot of the company culture.

I have a standing list of plug-ins that still don't work in T5 or T6, while they work just fine in Logic, DP and Live. But instead of cleaning up such minor issues, TSC prefers to release new, sexy and bug ridden features.

There are a lot of trains available. I'm not travelling any further on this one.

Kind regards,

Joachim

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:30 am

Well, just when you thought the testing was over, time to see if its fixed in the latest beta. Fast work if it is.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6064395

- Fixed a crash when deleting tracks using other tracks as inputs
- Fixed an issue where recordings would disappear if tabs are changed

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:26 am

whyterabbyt wrote:Well, just when you thought the testing was over, time to see if its fixed in the latest beta. Fast work if it is.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6064395

- Fixed a crash when deleting tracks using other tracks as inputs
- Fixed an issue where recordings would disappear if tabs are changed

Good sign that they have put it out as a beta this time, that's what they should have done before.

Tracktion Software

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T6 track recording wtf..