Is there anyone using T6 as their DAW for VO work?

[dotandtittle]

Hi, I'm a voice actor and I'm curious if there are any other voice actors using T6 as their DAW? So many talk about audacity, or Sound forge, cubous and adobe, or several others (can't think of their names right now) and I'm just wondering whether I've made a good choice with T6 r.e. this kind of audio work?

[klangbastler]

depending on your needs, tracktion can give you all that is necessary for this kind of work.

check if the workflow/feel of the program suits you and then learn about the tools available in tracktion.
i think tracktion is easier to grasp, than adobe or cubase, but you have to try for yourself.

[HansP]

T6 is very powerful, but may need a number of workarounds and caveats for more complex work (for me: racks and automation).
it depends a lot on the professional quality of the plugins you are using.
some free plugins naturally can create spurious problems and headaches.
the plugins that create problems are NOT at all the same e.g. between Cubase and Tracktion.

[rosesbyrosex]

Hi, I'm a voice actor and I'm curious if there are any other voice actors using T6 as their DAW? So many talk about audacity, or Sound forge

T6 i a complete DAW for music production, not only for audio edition like audacity.

[dotandtittle]

Thanks team. I'm working my way through it but its so hard to 'NOT' revert back to audacity, as this is what I've been using for some time. There are still some pro's with audacity. It's a great programme and easy to use, but limited to only one process at any given time. Although I do like the noise removal option with it, to help get rid of any noise floor. I can't seem to find a similar thing with T6, except 'gates' but gates only block noise between pauses in any audio recordings. Any suggestions? I suppose I'm limited to duplicating and processing any noise floor issues by reverting the duplicated track.

[HansP]

a roundtrip through an audio editor and back to the DAW is not unusual, if the track has certain particular problems.
you might declare audacity as the external audio editor in Tracktion.
for denoising, commercial software is recommended anyway, e.g. there are some WAVES plugins for this, and many audio cleaning suites.

[emarsk]

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ReaFIR has a noise reduction feature that works in a similar way of the Audacity's one.
It's one of the ReaPlugs (https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/) VSTs: you can install them for free (on Windows), and they are already included in Reaper (which is an excellent DAW by the way, for Windows and Mac).

Audacity is good for a couple of very specific tasks (like noise removal and sample level editing), but it's not usable as a DAW and has a terrible workflow, so outdated that it's almost unbelievable.

I'd suggest fixing any noise issue at the root of the problem, because with just you, a decent booth, a decent mic, and a decent audio interface, you should NOT have any noise floor issue, unless there's some peculiar reason I can't think of.

[dotandtittle]

Thanks, I'll check it out

[gesslr]

I do a lot of VO work. In that specific application, I find Waveform’s workflow a bit cumbersome. I need to be able to select a portion of a recording easily for editing and having to constantly set in and out markers (instead of just being able to drag and select a portion for editing) gets old very fast.

That’s my only complaint, but since I do that hundreds if not thousands of times in a multi hour audio drama, it’s a big deal for me.

I use Studio One. There’s a free version that you can download and try.

Cheers

[klangbastler]

I do a lot of VO work. In that specific application, I find Waveform’s workflow a bit cumbersome. I need to be able to select a portion of a recording easily for editing and having to constantly set in and out markers (instead of just being able to drag and select a portion for editing) gets old very fast.

That’s my only complaint, but since I do that hundreds if not thousands of times in a multi hour audio drama, it’s a big deal for me.

I use Studio One. There’s a free version that you can download and try.

Cheers

what you are describing is one of my main feature requests from the beginning, when i got back to tracktion with version 5. the editing workflow is so restricted by this I/O marker concept, especially in regard to clip editing.
i am amazed, that this is not developed further until now.
i already wrote a detailed report about that in the past and still hope that editing clips will be more elegant in the future.

[gesslr]

I’m pretty sure the dev team is aware of the desire out there. The in-out point thing is pretty fundamental to Waveform’s architecture I think. But it must be possible because you CAN make selections while comping...

Here’s hoping we see it at some point.

[HansP]

I would say,
combining of UI Windows integration, with data management of markers.
- switch on the "incremental track edit mode"
- mark a section with OS standard function, then turn it into a pair of markers
- (markers are a sorted collection of paired objects, with a number of properties like Track ID and time code start-end, also backup buffer management of pre-edited data, and a number of "methods" e.g. change volume or pitch, cut out, cut both ends, loop, etc, that prepare pointers and connections, and call the workhorse routines then)
- right click on the new marker, and do some work with the marked section by context menu (can lead to many more options).
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the comping workflow should use the same UI routines, but has different context menu, and different ID connections (i.e. those multiple recordings within one track)

[dotandtittle]

yes, I'm finding the 'in and out' marker editing feature a little hard to master. Dragging and highlighting sound waves seems to be much easier to work with and more accurate for small area editing. Although I really do want to migrate to a real DAW, hence my exploration of T6. So far, I love the programme and have downloaded those plugins 'emarsk' suggested. I can't see however, how the ReaFIR plugin removes noise. It seems to be more of an EQ (a very useful one, by the way - thanks) than a noise removal plugin.
With voice work you need to have basically a 'zero' noise floor because the tiny white noise you get between words can take away the fantasy of what's been spoken, causing the listener to think... 'oh, that's right, there's a microphone between my ears and those words'. Music always has some sound being played (bar any pauses... but even white noise is not so noticeable there. Probably because your ears haven't yet 'caught up' with the gap) so not as crucial.

[gesslr]

yes, I'm finding the 'in and out' marker editing feature a little hard to master. Dragging and highlighting sound waves seems to be much easier to work with and more accurate for small area editing. Although I really do want to migrate to a real DAW, hence my exploration of T6. So far, I love the programme and have downloaded those plugins 'emarsk' suggested. I can't see however, how the ReaFIR plugin removes noise. It seems to be more of an EQ (a very useful one, by the way - thanks) than a noise removal plugin.
With voice work you need to have basically a 'zero' noise floor because the tiny white noise you get between words can take away the fantasy of what's been spoken, causing the listener to think... 'oh, that's right, there's a microphone between my ears and those words'. Music always has some sound being played (bar any pauses... but even white noise is not so noticeable there. Probably because your ears haven't yet 'caught up' with the gap) so not as crucial.

So there are some other options out there...

A decent product from what I hear, but I have not used it:

http://www.antarestech.com/noisereducti ... undsoap-5/

Then there is this from Accusonus:

https://accusonus.com/products/era-n

They also have a nice reverb/room removal plugin:

https://accusonus.com/products/era-r

These last two I used extensively in my last project and they work really well. So much so, that I used them in place of my iZotope plugins focused on these areas. (Just a lot simpler and quicker to dial in what I needed and very effective.)

All of them are very affordable (around $50) and offer free trials I believe.

[gesslr]

I would say,
combining of UI Windows integration, with data management of markers.
- switch on the "incremental track edit mode"
- mark a section with OS standard function, then turn it into a pair of markers
- (markers are a sorted collection of paired objects, with a number of properties like Track ID and time code start-end, also backup buffer management of pre-edited data, and a number of "methods" e.g. change volume or pitch, cut out, cut both ends, loop, etc, that prepare pointers and connections, and call the workhorse routines then)
- right click on the new marker, and do some work with the marked section by context menu (can lead to many more options).
===
the comping workflow should use the same UI routines, but has different context menu, and different ID connections (i.e. those multiple recordings within one track)

I like it.