Using z3ta+ as FX plugin doesn't work... why?

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If I use the z3ta+ FX plugin in Tracktion, it doesn't work properly: The sound gets "blocked" by the VSTfx (with Audio Input Thru on). It only gets through if I click on the keyboard "ribbon" on the z3ta GUI. And since I can't just draw a steady note which would "open" the FX in the MIDI editor (because the FX doesn't receive the MIDI notes), I don't see a solution...

I'm new to this whole VST stuff... and I don't really like it. I love the simplicity and power of Reason. Although z3ta blows the Subtractor away... :?

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any tips? *bump*

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I do not have a solution for your problem but I can confirm z3ta+ works fine here with Tracktion and I can add as many FX plugs to it as I wish.

Your question is a little confusing.
Can you rephrase it?

You are using z3ta+ VSTi and you are triggering it with an outboard midi keyboard correct?
This is working fine as I understand. correct?

You only have problems if you try to insert a second plug after the z3ta+ in the track. correct?

Are you by any chance putting the VST effect before z3ta+ ? (if you are don't, you can not use sound effects on midi notes)

:?:

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hmm I think hes trying to use the FX version of z3ta...

that is.. using z3ta as an fx unit instead of a synthesizer..

I have no idea how to get it working with tracktion though.. :P

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I only ever tried it once (I'm not that bothered about z3ta's effects). It caused a huge audio spike and f**ked my hearing for 10 minutes. I never tried it again.

I'm not sure the fx gets on well with Tracktion TBH.

You could use a rack to route midi to the fx plug, though that'd be a little ugly.
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Hi guys. Same thing had me baffled till I read up and discovered how it works:

By memory: (which is dodgy sometimes, so this may or may not be correct...)

-fx: works by routing incoming audio through the effects engine. Ie, audio should go straight through.

-fx_2: with this one, you need to send a midi signal to allow audio through, this time being fed through z3ta's beautiful filters. :love: The trick is that the envelopes require midi signal to be activated, so unless you send some notes to fx_2, the amplitude envelope will not open up, hence no sound. Some very very cool tricks to be had by playing with this....

Hope this works for you.

Cheers,
littleboyfound
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Thanks littleboy! This seems to be the solution (I haven't tried it, but what you say makes sense). Only problem though: the z3ta_FX.dll is automatically on the VST ignore list in my Tracktion and after deleting and rescanning it's there again. So it seems I can't use the FX unit with Tracktion... :cry:

Thanks for your replies anyway :)

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Don't delete the dll file itself. Just remove the entry from the ignore list and rescan. That should work.

*Remember to dsiable OSCs when using the fx. z3ta+_fx2 is extremely powerful, but it's takes time to program something decent.

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Yeah, that's what I meant. I wouldn't delete the dll, wouldn't make much sense now, would it?! :wink:

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I solved this by using the Z3ta+_FX2 instead of the _fx

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