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MONIKERDNTEL · Post by **MONIKERDNTEL** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:37 am

I was wondering, can Ableton do the exact same things as the vsti shortcircuit can? Such as playing multiple samples in different keys of the piano and instead of triggering the samples, you can actually play and release.

MONIKERDNTEL · Post by **MONIKERDNTEL** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:53 pm

60 views and nobody? seriously

pandashake · Post by **pandashake** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:56 pm

Try asking at the Ableton forums if you're not getting any bites here.

I would imagine that Sampler or maybe Simpler could do what you are asking, but I'm not a Live user (yet...).

MONIKERDNTEL · Post by **MONIKERDNTEL** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:20 pm

i tried signing up to the ableton forum, but for some reason the registration is all screwed up and i haven't seen my confirmation link yet...ugh lol

Kmeister · Post by **Kmeister** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:24 pm

Live is a Host/sequencer and Shortcircuit is a vsti sampler that you can fire up in Live so maybe some people think it's a pointless question?

xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:19 pm

In Live there's 2 sample player, Simpler and Sampler. You can't do much with Simpler but with Sampler you can do what you've asked.

I'm not a user of Live so I can be wrong but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Also I think Sampler comes only with Live Suite.

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:24 pm

IIRC, Claes (of Surge and Shortcircuit fame) has worked with Ableton at one point. I wonder which part of Live was his creation.

I may be wrong but I think he also stated once that Live sample handling (with Sampler/Drum Rack) was one of the reasons he stopped developing Shortcircuit, as those features had fulfilled his requirements in a sampler, and thus lost his motivation on developing Shortcircuit further, or something like that.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:33 pm

Simpler comes with Live. Sampler can be bought separate, and/or it comes with Ableton Suite.

Sampler allows for multiple samples per key. Drum Racks also allows for multiple samples per key.

I don't know anything about Shortcircuit, so can't compare.

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:19 am

poonna wrote:IIRC, Claes (of Surge and Shortcircuit fame) has worked with Ableton at one point. I wonder which part of Live was his creation.

He is a part of Ableton now; I believe he did the much improved Compressor for Live 7 IIRC.

elxicano wrote: Sampler allows for multiple samples per key. Drum Racks also allows for multiple samples per key.

Just to clarify, Drum Racks only allows multi-sampling if using Sampler, not with the default Simpler. Simpler has multi-sampling capability for Ableton's own drum instruments (Drum Machines, Session Drums), but not for samples loaded by the user. For that you need Sampler (which is worth every penny IMO).

PaulSC · Post by **PaulSC** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:27 am

jamester wrote:
poonna wrote:IIRC, Claes (of Surge and Shortcircuit fame) has worked with Ableton at one point. I wonder which part of Live was his creation.
He is a part of Ableton now; I believe he did the much improved Compressor for Live 7 IIRC.

He has actually left Ableton and is working with some other former Ableton programmers on a new project called Bitwig...

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:03 am

PaulSC wrote: He has actually left Ableton and is working with some other former Ableton programmers on a new project called Bitwig...

I'd heard of Bitwig, but I hadn't heard Claes left Ableton. He's still listed as part of the company on their "About Us" page, but it could very well be out of date...

PaulSC · Post by **PaulSC** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:13 am

Yeah, he posted at the Vember Audio forum to the effect that he had "quit" Ableton -- in this thread

But I guess I'm dragging this thread OT...

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:22 am

Well, there you go! Thanks for the info.

Right then, back on topic...

MONIKERDNTEL · Post by **MONIKERDNTEL** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:26 am

thanks to all for the info and help, and Kmeister, i know the difference between ableton and shortcircuit, all i was trying to ask was if there were any plugs in ableton that were similar to shortcircuit thats all, sheeesh lol

kurasu · Post by **kurasu** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:32 am

paul: yeah that's correct!

Ableton & Shortcircuit?