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eindoofus · Post by **eindoofus** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:51 pm

I love the warmth that come out of tube amps. Whether they are being played clean or with distortion the sound is much better than pure electronic amplifiers that output a flatter sound.

I was wondering if there are any types of plug-ins that can help (even if it's just a little bit) with creating a warmer authentic tube amp sound out of amplitube or guitar rig.

maximilians1 · Post by **maximilians1** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:59 pm

nebula 2

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:05 pm

Did you try Amplitube 3? Supposedly it's much better than older versions.

I didn't try it, but I'm just transferring what I've read a lot of times on various forums. Myself, I use AcmeBarGig Shred and it's freaking amazing!

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:14 pm

Experiment with combinations of Bootsie's Density II and FerricTDS http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/, internal sidechain @ ca 200 Hz, try before AT as well as after.
One or two of these should do the trick, at least they do here.
Check for the (tube) comp in AT's rack and remove it.
Ymmv,
susiwong

guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:09 pm

I agree with susiwong's suggestion to use additional dynamics processing - try before AND after, too. Experiment with the thresholds and ratios - you're not really trying to compress the entire signal, just shape the dynamic response in interesting ways to get an amp-like envelope (representing power amp sag, bloom, etc, and also the speaker/cab compression/limiting effects).

I haven't tried Bootsie's plugins for this yet (I will!) but I know this approach works in general - for all amp modeling software, or even for a hardware preamp or attenuated amp used with a convolver loaded with cab IRs.

Klemperer · Post by **Klemperer** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:42 pm

Great advice from both of you, as always. Nice

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:49 pm

Well, the answer is quite obvious, no? If AmpliTube sounds like a tube amp, running two instances one after the other will sound twice as much as a tube amp. Just keep stacking instances until you have the tube sound you want.

eindoofus · Post by **eindoofus** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:31 pm

Sounds good

. Thank you all once again. This is by far one of the most helpful forums I have been to.

KrisM · Post by **KrisM** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:36 pm

zerocrossing wrote:Well, the answer is quite obvious, no? If AmpliTube sounds like a tube amp, running two instances one after the other will sound twice as much as a tube amp. Just keep stacking instances until you have the tube sound you want.

RAWR WALL OF SOUND IN DA 'PUTER RAWR

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:42 pm

zerocrossing wrote:Well, the answer is quite obvious, no? If AmpliTube sounds like a tube amp, running two instances one after the other will sound twice as much as a tube amp. Just keep stacking instances until you have the tube sound you want.

I just tried that. I had several instances running and my room suddenly got really hot from all the tube warmth being generated by Amplitube. Can someone recommend a plugin to cool things down?

MountainKing · Post by **MountainKing** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:45 pm

Just add a kind of a "tube booster" to your recording chain in front of the computer!

I'm using a Reußenzehn Daniel D Tubebooster. But there are a lot of similar products that can do this as well (Hughes+Kettner and so on).

It is a REAL difference. Check it out.

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:57 pm

zerocrossing wrote:Well, the answer is quite obvious, no? If AmpliTube sounds like a tube amp, running two instances one after the other will sound twice as much as a tube amp. Just keep stacking instances until you have the tube sound you want.

My plugin sounds like a plugin, so I want to add more plugins to make it sound less like a plugin.

-Kim.

idolo1co · Post by **idolo1co** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:59 pm

Kim (esoundz) wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:Well, the answer is quite obvious, no? If AmpliTube sounds like a tube amp, running two instances one after the other will sound twice as much as a tube amp. Just keep stacking instances until you have the tube sound you want.
My plugin sounds like a plugin, so I want to add more plugins to make it sound less like a plugin.

-Kim.

chokehold · Post by **chokehold** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:02 pm

There's one thing that I found out:
as good as IK's preamp-modeling might be, their cabinet simulations -IMHO- are poor. To say the least.

I always turn the internal cabinet off and put an instance of Voxengo Boogex behind Amplitube, loaded with one of the glorious Red Wire or ReCabinet IRs.
This way, it sounds far more organic and "real" to me.

instant de-silky-fyer.
instant ruffness.
instant me likes.

(I own Amplitube Metal and various other Amplitube 2 products, BTW. So I can say nothing about Amplitube 3, haven't tried or heard it yet.)

an-electric-heart · Post by **an-electric-heart** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:30 pm

I've heard this is good for tube distortion effects (I've not tried it, It's fairly cheap though):

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3557.html

Are there any plug-ins that can help make Amplitube sound more like a tube amp?