The NVIDIA thread

[t3toooo]

hi folks,

i painfully reviewed my windows 7 computer for several day's because of suffering unnatural glitch's and pop's with a lower asio buffer.

i found the culprit rather by accident.

it is my gtx 460 driver.

never had a shitty graphics driver like this,congrats nividia.

i paid for my card 160€ some month's ago because i want to use cuda for videostuff.


needed to uninstall three times until i got the quality driver from windows itself (from 2006 ) because win-does automatically re-installed the previous one from nvidia and they where all crap.

btw.i did a uninstall but i never looked for the properties if this thing was removed completely...lesson learned.

however,
i read about the gtx 460 "quality driver" and the nvidia forum is full of complains about this.

meh, i don't think they want to solve this, that's why i want to ask in the forum if anybody successful use a "better" nvidia card with a good driver and a lower asio buffer?


honestly,
i think have to uninstall this driver, every time i want to work with audio and install this driver for using cuda for video


any solutions?

[zzzxtreme]

dual boot

[The Chubu]

Uninstall driver.

Start in Safe Mode.

Clean Drivers with DriverSweeper, do a pass of CCleaner (registry and files).

Restart on normal mode.

Install newest drivers.

What you can do so Windows 7 doesnt install the nVidia driver is, while on the proccess that i mentioned before, in safe mode (before restarting on normal mode) you could try installing nVidia drivers from there. wo rebooting. If it doesnt install, you should have them extracted on your C:/NVIDIA. You can install them "manually" from the Device Manager (right clicking on the video card in the list, update drivers, search from directory, and put it to look in C:/NVIDIA). That will install only the graphic driver (thus, preventing Windows 7 from "updating" to the old drivers), you have to restart in normal mode and install drivers normally after that.

275.33 are the newest on nVidia page. That should work. From my FX5200 to my current GTX560 Ti (with a ATi HD5770 in the middle), i only had issues with one driver, that was a leaked Alpha driver with a version number waaaay higher than the ones that nVidia were releasing by then (officials were 170.xx or so, and this alpha driver was 185.xx lol).

And i had one driver issue with mu HD5770. BSOD if i recall correctly. Installed another driver and worked fine.

[mystran]

I got GTX570 and it works perfectly fine. I'm running revision 266.58, but I'd guess newer ones should work just as well.

I'm running mostly default settings, except in NVidia panel -> 3D settings -> "Threaded optimization" is set to "off" because it would cause all kinds of random problems with various games; can't remember if I had any drop-out problems though, but it might be worth a try (Aero is 3D anyway so).

[The Chubu]

I'm running mostly default settings, except in NVidia panel -> 3D settings -> "Threaded optimization" is set to "off" because it would cause all kinds of random problems with various games; can't remember if I had any drop-out problems though, but it might be worth a try (Aero is 3D anyway so).

Weird. Leaving it at "auto" doesnt cut it?

[t3toooo]

thanks a lot guys,


i didn't cleaned the registry but installed the latest driver again and it is working much better.


at least some useful information provided in this thread.

[highkoo]

installed the latest driver again and it is working much better.

Geez, didnt even have to go through the driver shuffle?

Color me interested cuz I just put a 460 in my daw like two weeks ago. No issues so far, except for a fifteen degree heat increase at max load.

But driver wise, I used the latest and I had far less headaches than the last nvidia go round on this same behemoth rig so Im happy.
And, either way its worlds better than my experiences with ATIs in a daw.

[t3toooo]

installed the latest driver again and it is working much better.

Geez, didnt even have to go through the driver shuffle?

Color me interested cuz I just put a 460 in my daw like two weeks ago. No issues so far, except for a fifteen degree heat increase at max load.

But driver wise, I used the latest and I had far less headaches than the last nvidia go round on this same behemoth rig so Im happy.
And, either way its worlds better than my experiences with ATIs in a daw.

yes that was easy..


though,take care uninstalling.


never happen to me before but win 7 just used the previous nvidia driver.


in the device manager i needed to uninstall 4 times.
you need to select,"delete driver" in the properties of your card and "scan for new hardware" in the device manager,until the windows legacy one shows up.

then install it again.


hope they will fix it,if it isn't already.

[plauto]

Actually these drivers are a problem, whatever they are nvidia or ati, the best solution is to install multiple versions and see how the system behaves.

[Nokenoku]

I am using Nvidia cards for the last 4 years or so, and never had any problems with their drivers.

I don't even understand your problem (I use W7 as well).

[1-2-Many]

Sorry to revive this nearly year old thread, but ...

Witin the last few weeks I've been experiencing clicks and pops - I tracked it to my Video driver (I'm running an Nvidia GeForce GT8600). Using LatencyMon, it appeared that "nvlddmkm.sys - NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 296.10" was the culprit, giving the highest DPC routine execution time.

Noticing that the audio issues only show up once the PC's been on for awhile I opened up the case and saw that the fan wasn't moving - I blew it out and now it spins, and no more issues....so far.

This is weird - Could a dying fan really be the cause? My guess is the gpu is getting taxed on overheating???


FWIW, the following threads discuss DPC latency issues due to Nvidia cards and poor drivers. I didn't apply any of the fixes since I never got that far in my troubleshooting, but there's some good info for anyone having audio issues alongside Nvidia cards

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=220818

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=214316

[t3toooo]

yes a dying fan is the most obvious way to sell graphics cards.

and of course,to much heat is bad for performance.

[Gonga]

The biggest enemy of electronics is heat. The primary cause of overheating is dust buildup. So keep it clean!

What works for me is a positive pressure case. I have more fans blowing into the case than out, creating pressure inside the case. All the inlets are covered with no-see-um netting to capture the dust, and I vacuum these monthly or thereabouts. The relatively clean air inside the case is forced outward through exhaust fans and ports, and all cracks and crannies, as opposed to dust building up within them, so all my connectors and jacks, DVD drives, etc. are dust-free. And the inside of the case is also surprisingly clean.

[Kaine]

This is weird - Could a dying fan really be the cause? My guess is the gpu is getting taxed on overheating???

Perhaps. Went through a troubleshoot last week with someone who was running 2 X 210's to drive his 4 screens, and after two years of this setup it was starting to pop and click after being on for a while. After some swapping about we established that one card was spiking the DPC no matter what configuration it was placed in, whilst the other one was always fine... however except for the crazy rising DPC the was no other symptoms and it appeared to be working great!

So yeah, the card was in the process of failing but not in an obvious way. Your 8600GT is quite an old card now so the aged componants could be starting to get more susceptible to heat build up issues.