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Steinberg Re-releases two classic VSTi's
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osiris
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:54 am reply with quote
I thought I was in the ftp. Why does my computer always go to the main site then switch over to ftp view?
What is that CS-40 synth? I don't remember that.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:20 am reply with quote
osiris wrote:
I thought I was in the ftp. Why does my computer always go to the main site then switch over to ftp view?
What is that CS-40 synth? I don't remember that.


I believe it was included with some early version of Cubase. Anyway, the .dll provided on ftp doesn't open in any host here (I don't have Cubase so can't check if it works there)

Edit: that was Cubase 5.1

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The three new VST Instruments are a big improvement over those previously supplied with Cubase. The flagship is JX16, a 16-voice virtual analogue synth licensed from MDA, closely followed by Steinberg's own CS40, a six-voice dual-oscillator virtual analogue synth.


Edit2
And rather ugly it was
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:43 am reply with quote
Most of the plug ins you can find hosted on the ftp try to find an equivalent dongle license in order to work and many of them work only in that specific host even if they can find a license (for example Cubase only)...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:55 am reply with quote
when you run the installer, it also places 5 model-e preset folders somewhere (i can't recall where now, as i've already moved them to my own presets folder...) my question is, how do you load them? they're all in vst3 (vstpreset) format, yet the plugin isn't vst3. if it helps any, i use flstudio.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:54 am reply with quote
Reverse Engineer wrote:
when you run the installer, it also places 5 model-e preset folders somewhere (i can't recall where now, as i've already moved them to my own presets folder...) my question is, how do you load them? they're all in vst3 (vstpreset) format, yet the plugin isn't vst3. if it helps any, i use flstudio.

Well they can't be loaded directly it seems but I figured out that each of those vst3 presets contains an fxb. By deleting the 64 first bytes of the file with an hex editor so that the file starts with CcnK and save as fxb you get a bank which can be loaded normally in any non-vst3 host. Optionally the trailing xml at the end of those vst3 presets can also be deleted but leaving it doesn't affect their viability as fxb.

In case it feels too complicated I uploaded the thus fixed banks:

http://www.mediafire.com/?217sxwvkc3wgoa7

(Someone please PM me in case there is any legal issue and I'll remove them)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:23 am reply with quote
Blimey! There's a blast from the past. I remember Model-E didn't sound all that great 10 years ago. For me the main appeal was that it was basically an emulation of a Mini Moog. God knows how it must sound these days compared to what we have now. Can I be bothered downloading to find out? No!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:51 am reply with quote
eidenk wrote:
Reverse Engineer wrote:
when you run the installer, it also places 5 model-e preset folders somewhere (i can't recall where now, as i've already moved them to my own presets folder...) my question is, how do you load them? they're all in vst3 (vstpreset) format, yet the plugin isn't vst3. if it helps any, i use flstudio.

Well they can't be loaded directly it seems but I figured out that each of those vst3 presets contains an fxb. By deleting the 64 first bytes of the file with an hex editor so that the file starts with CcnK and save as fxb you get a bank which can be loaded normally in any non-vst3 host. Optionally the trailing xml at the end of those vst3 presets can also be deleted but leaving it doesn't affect their viability as fxb.

In case it feels too complicated I uploaded the thus fixed banks:

http://www.mediafire.com/?217sxwvkc3wgoa7

(Someone please PM me in case there is any legal issue and I'll remove them)
excellent. thank you very much!

i really like this synth, so low on cpu etc (which matters a lot to me, as my comp is a p4, with 1gb ram) it makes no impact at all on resources. as for the sound quality, it does it's job pretty well.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:13 am reply with quote
Cool, glad you're happy with that.

There are some user banks here on Kvr and some on patch arena also btw.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:45 am reply with quote
Compyfox wrote:
Then again, from the looks, VB-1 was not really enhanced, just rerendered with a new GUI and x64 support. Then again, it was part of Cubase since VST3.7 days. Yes, that is old.

I'm curious when they will update LM-4. HiHi


hehe, i remember those days Smile LM-4 was the first vsti i ever bought. i remember editing kits with notepad Smile never really had much use for vb-1 or neon, though, and don't even remember model e...

karlette=fond memories indeed Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:53 am reply with quote
Reverse Engineer wrote:
eidenk wrote:
Reverse Engineer wrote:
when you run the installer, it also places 5 model-e preset folders somewhere (i can't recall where now, as i've already moved them to my own presets folder...) my question is, how do you load them? they're all in vst3 (vstpreset) format, yet the plugin isn't vst3. if it helps any, i use flstudio.

Well they can't be loaded directly it seems but I figured out that each of those vst3 presets contains an fxb. By deleting the 64 first bytes of the file with an hex editor so that the file starts with CcnK and save as fxb you get a bank which can be loaded normally in any non-vst3 host. Optionally the trailing xml at the end of those vst3 presets can also be deleted but leaving it doesn't affect their viability as fxb.

In case it feels too complicated I uploaded the thus fixed banks:

http://www.mediafire.com/?217sxwvkc3wgoa7

(Someone please PM me in case there is any legal issue and I'll remove them)
excellent. thank you very much!

i really like this synth, so low on cpu etc (which matters a lot to me, as my comp is a p4, with 1gb ram) it makes no impact at all on resources. as for the sound quality, it does it's job pretty well.


A little processing goes a long way.... any old plug can be spruced up with the right fx.. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 pm reply with quote
beltrom wrote:
I don't get the negative replies either. It's a nice gesture and actually I even like model e. Easy programming, 16 part multitimbral and doesn't put a dent on the cpu no matter how hard you run it. I can definately see myself using it in the right context. There's a few nice banks to have here at kvraudio as well.

Thanks to Steinberg and the guys that put in their free time.


definitely +1!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:05 pm reply with quote
kelldammit wrote:
never really had much use for vb-1
Run it through Baxxpander from Elogoxa (free) and it can be reasonably usable.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:13 pm reply with quote
Compyfox wrote:
Now I'd love to see them reviving "other" old tools...

A1, Virtual Guitarist/Bassisst, Voice Machine...
Hey, I can dream!


Then again, from the looks, VB-1 was not really enhanced, just rerendered with a new GUI and x64 support. Then again, it was part of Cubase since VST3.7 days. Yes, that is old.

I'm curious when they will update LM-4. HiHi

I raise my voice for A1 too. I was very disappointed when I saw that I couldn't run it anymore in Lion. But that's a Waldorf work, AFAIK
And Xphrase, which was done by ReFX, I think.
Or D'Cota, which was a cutdown version of Tera, by Virsyn (which also did the synths currently in Cubase).
When I think of it, it seems like Steinberg never did any synthesizer by themselves.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:21 pm reply with quote
Jazz Franco wrote:
Returning to the point: unfortunately, couldn't get Model E to show in any host (Traction NFR and Reaper4) on my old iBook Mac with 10.4.11, which is sad -- looking at the CPU consumption on PC this could make some nice funny little setup.

That's the Apple syndrome. Any system more than three years old cannot run today software. Any software more than three years old cannot run in today OS Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:50 pm reply with quote
I was going to mention A1 as it was a litl bad#ss but everyone gets wadded undies when you throw a little fire toward Cu-boss and Steinberg. A1 would eat three model e's and a vb1 for brunch.......Personally like I thought I alluded to was I wish Steiny would dole out all the discontinued software......the thought of some of those instruments dying kills a little piece of me inside. I'm sure this whole mess is not doing any good to the SX years dongle that hasn't been touched in quite a while either.....
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