Audio interface options for samples: USB 2.0 or PCIE
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 22 posts since 17 Apr, 2007
I'm looking at upgrading to a desktop system with only PCIE slots, so I can't just move my PCI card over.
I'm hoping to get an audio interface for under $250 (CAN), with USB 2.0 and PCIE as my only options.
I use mainly Kontakt (some Omni) in Reaper, so latency is a big concern.
What do you use (or recommend), and what kind of latency are you getting?
Also, is anyone using the PCIE EMU 0404 card in Win7 64-bit?
Thanks
Greg
I'm hoping to get an audio interface for under $250 (CAN), with USB 2.0 and PCIE as my only options.
I use mainly Kontakt (some Omni) in Reaper, so latency is a big concern.
What do you use (or recommend), and what kind of latency are you getting?
Also, is anyone using the PCIE EMU 0404 card in Win7 64-bit?
Thanks
Greg
- KVRAF
- 8421 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
I use an M-Audio Fast Track Pro with the lowest setting, 128 samples, 5 ms latency. I don't know how it compares to similar priced, but I've owned it for 5-6 years now.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 22 posts since 17 Apr, 2007
Thanks RunBeerRun. Is that round trip latency? (i.e. from Midi keyboard hit, to audio back to you)? 5 ms would be fine for me (hobby level home studio).
However, according to this comparison ( http://forum.dawbench.com/showthread.ph ... -Data-Base ), if I'm reading the chart correctly, he's claiming that the M-Audio Fast Track Pro (not sure if he means "Ultra" instead of "Pro") gets gets round trip latency of 10.8 ms (buffer at 128).
I'm finding it difficult to get comparisons, as things seem to have changed a lot in the last 3-4 years (i.e. some people in 2009 hate an interface that people in 2011 generally are okay with...).
Anyway, if more people could let me know their experiences that would help a lot. Thanks.[/url][/quote]
However, according to this comparison ( http://forum.dawbench.com/showthread.ph ... -Data-Base ), if I'm reading the chart correctly, he's claiming that the M-Audio Fast Track Pro (not sure if he means "Ultra" instead of "Pro") gets gets round trip latency of 10.8 ms (buffer at 128).
I'm finding it difficult to get comparisons, as things seem to have changed a lot in the last 3-4 years (i.e. some people in 2009 hate an interface that people in 2011 generally are okay with...).
Anyway, if more people could let me know their experiences that would help a lot. Thanks.[/url][/quote]
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 20 Jan, 2006
I believe the fast track pro asio performance is similar to my fast track mkii:
48khz: In=5,306ms Out=5,306ms (128 samples)
44.1khz: In=4,875ms Out=4,875ms (128 samples)
So 5ms would be just the input or output latency...
I also believe that with fast track ultra you could go down to 64 samples with high performance mode enabled, but now with the latest drivers the minimum setting is 128 samples (high performance mode was removed).
48khz: In=5,306ms Out=5,306ms (128 samples)
44.1khz: In=4,875ms Out=4,875ms (128 samples)
So 5ms would be just the input or output latency...
I also believe that with fast track ultra you could go down to 64 samples with high performance mode enabled, but now with the latest drivers the minimum setting is 128 samples (high performance mode was removed).
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- KVRAF
- 1624 posts since 14 Sep, 2007 from www.koeln.de/en/
When I got my Audio Interface, I made sure to buy at a shop that allows returning the product without questions asked. Like Amazon, Thomann, Musicstore and the likes.
I tried several ones, the third product I had them send me was good enough for my purpose, the other ones I tried and sent them back and had the shop refund me.
I tried several ones, the third product I had them send me was good enough for my purpose, the other ones I tried and sent them back and had the shop refund me.
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- Banned
- 1374 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Finland
How do you measure those? Aren't there any additional usb-buffering in between?gemada wrote:I believe the fast track pro asio performance is similar to my fast track mkii:
48khz: In=5,306ms Out=5,306ms (128 samples)
44.1khz: In=4,875ms Out=4,875ms (128 samples)
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- KVRian
- 656 posts since 25 Sep, 2010
If you are using samples exclusively, the choice of audio interface is almost irrelevant in terms of latency. Even when recording external audio sources, latency introduced by the interface itself doesn't differ much from one prosumer product to the next, and only represents a fraction of the overall latency anyway.
Choose your interface based on needed features. If you're using software samplers and synthesizers exclusively you don't need 10 input channels, S/PDIF, ADAT, zero-latency monitoring, DSP - just a MIDI port (unless your controller is USB), a stereo output and a headphone jack. Any decent PCIe card (yes, the EMU 0404 qualifies) should suit your needs.
Choose your interface based on needed features. If you're using software samplers and synthesizers exclusively you don't need 10 input channels, S/PDIF, ADAT, zero-latency monitoring, DSP - just a MIDI port (unless your controller is USB), a stereo output and a headphone jack. Any decent PCIe card (yes, the EMU 0404 qualifies) should suit your needs.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 22 posts since 17 Apr, 2007
Yes, Bbaggins, I would only need 1 or 2 inputs.
Is anyone currently using one of the budget EMU PCIe cards? (0404, 1212)
Is the Patchmix software that comes with it useful, or does it get in the way?
Thanks
Is anyone currently using one of the budget EMU PCIe cards? (0404, 1212)
Is the Patchmix software that comes with it useful, or does it get in the way?
Thanks