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Proxima4
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:32 pm reply with quote
Higher end gameing rig's are full of high end spec's that quite often iclude SSD
has anyone started to include these in their system.

If so what's the best use, as primary drive for OS, Sample Streaming.

Whats the low down? Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:38 pm reply with quote
Ups: No more fan noise, breezing fast booting and loading times, better performance for DFD sample streaming
Downs: Only limited amount of read and write processes so a SSD which is used a lot will probably live shorter than a conventional drive, the SSD in my Macbook Pro has been working flawlessly for 2,5 years now and I use it a lot.
And they're still quite expensive.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:51 pm reply with quote
been running ssd raid's for years... basically its an upgrade, the price for audio aint cheap, for read write a little less than magnetical. those big 3tb drives still comes in handy with big libraries.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:33 pm reply with quote
120 SSD on the OS drive. Windows 7 if any one needs install tips please PM me and I will happily guide you through. See below for links.

SATA Raptor (10000RPM) for Audio read/write (until prices drop and ssd's are more reliable for constant read write).

SATA Western digital Server drive for sample libraries, plugin data, presets and so on.

SATA Wetern Digital Black drive for all other data and crud!

External WD Caddies for data backup and storage of online downloaded files.


http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/196993-bsod-dri ver-detected-controller-error-device-ide-ideport5-2.html#12
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:56 pm reply with quote
Read cycles are not really limited.

Write and ERASE cycles are more limited.


That being said, with TRIM it gets better, and SandForce controllers are really working their sweat off to ensure longetivity of the SSD. It's a greater probability that HDD will suffer a mechanical error than SSD rendered unusable because of write-erase cycle limitations, especially in laptops.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:36 am reply with quote
Sizes are noy yet very economical for those of us who use dedicated drives with large sample libraries. I do however recommend SSD's for your system drive. I was gobsmacked at how much snappier everything is with a SSD running your OS.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:44 am reply with quote
Atardecer wrote:
Sizes are noy yet very economical for those of us who use dedicated drives with large sample libraries.


Best solution there is an SSD cacheing the larger HD via Intel Smart Response.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:23 am reply with quote
Atardecer wrote:
I was gobsmacked at how much snappier everything is with a SSD running your OS.


+1

I've got Windows 7 64-bit on an SSD, it's fast, and it hasn't given me an ounce of trouble for about 2 years.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:23 am reply with quote
Esgalachoir wrote:
Atardecer wrote:
I was gobsmacked at how much snappier everything is with a SSD running your OS.

+1

+1
Just get one for the OS til they are cheaper.
With the size of sample libs and the cost per GB for SSD, and the gains for sample streaming, its just nuts to have TBs of SSD for samples until they are considerably cheaper.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:55 am reply with quote
Always recommended for the system drive. If big enough also for projects and samples! But it's also a good recommendation to have a 1TB or bigger drive for backups and stuff.
Must not be a Intel, the OCZ Vertex2 or the newer Vertex3 having excellent performance.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:50 am reply with quote
I have 2 samsung 470 series 128 GB SSDs that I'm going to Raid 0.
Problem is, no trim or GC for raid. Intels should have this fixed with new drivers but for what chip sets? Solution, do all installs and write ops on an install on a stanterd drive. Wipe the SSD raid before copied to.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:41 pm reply with quote
whyterabbyt wrote:
Atardecer wrote:
Sizes are noy yet very economical for those of us who use dedicated drives with large sample libraries.


Best solution there is an SSD cacheing the larger HD via Intel Smart Response.


Interesting. Care to elaborate for a nub? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:57 am reply with quote
Atardecer wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
Atardecer wrote:
Sizes are noy yet very economical for those of us who use dedicated drives with large sample libraries.


Best solution there is an SSD cacheing the larger HD via Intel Smart Response.


Interesting. Care to elaborate for a nub? Wink


Intel designed a system, built into the drive controllers on some of their newer chipsets, that allows an SSD drive to act as a massive cache to a normal hard drive. So if you have, say, a 32Gb hard drive cacheing your 2Tb sample drive, the 32Gb most-recently accessed stuff will be available at almost-SSD speeds, and it'll only ever need to pull stuff off the lower-speed normal HD if its not already on the SSD.

More technical explanation at Anandtech :
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4329/intel-z68-chipset-smart-r esponse-technology-ssd-caching-review/2
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:55 am reply with quote
SSDs do not need to be Intel's only. Modern SandForce controllers are doing the heavy lifting. OCZ, Samsung, Corsair, all great brands, but OCZ has really topnotch performance.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:14 pm reply with quote
Those of us with older systems might want to look at Silverstone HDDBoost
It allows a regular SATA connection to use a SSD as a cache for a harddrive.

There is another manufacturer making something similar, but I forgot who.
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