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Plugin formats? This is the end...

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osiris
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7265 posts since 20 Nov, 2003, from Lost and Spaced

Postby osiris; Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:47 am

I thought AAX was another DirectX extension. I swear I tricked my other computer into recognizing AAX extension, so I could use plugins in a DAW.
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whyterabbyt
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21499 posts since 3 Sep, 2001, from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Postby whyterabbyt; Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:48 am

FaX wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:Other host developers? Is it?



Of course not - they don't do CV / gate patching / audio spider merging / splitting and use a specific device called a Combinator do they. :help:


That's why I wondered.
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T-CM11
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1266 posts since 31 Jan, 2003, from Ghent, Belgium

Postby T-CM11; Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:48 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
T-CM11 wrote:Anyone who makes RE's?


Im not sure I get your point, then. Could you explain? Do you mean that its a good thing that other developers who can make stuff for non-proprietry formats can now make them for even more proprietry formats too?

There was a misunderstanding. I corrected it in my original post :wink:
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whyterabbyt
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Postby whyterabbyt; Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:51 am

T-CM11 wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
T-CM11 wrote:Anyone who makes RE's?


Im not sure I get your point, then. Could you explain? Do you mean that its a good thing that other developers who can make stuff for non-proprietry formats can now make them for even more proprietry formats too?

There was a misunderstanding. I corrected it in my original post :wink:


sorry, i never saw the edit until after I'd posted.
trimph1
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14001 posts since 23 Jun, 2010, from north of London ON

Postby trimph1; Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:52 am

Makes me wonder.

How many 'moribund' vst formats there are.... :?:
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christianmusicmaker
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1664 posts since 1 Feb, 2004, from UK

Postby christianmusicmaker; Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:57 am

I think more than anything if Props can make that Prop Shop work for RE's then surely at least a few devs will consider following with thier own shop. The 30% cut from anything in the shop may be too tempting a revenue stream for other hosts devs (bigger ones) to resist regardless of fragmentation.
Caco
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1043 posts since 25 Apr, 2005

Postby Caco; Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:16 am

It is certainly not the end, I will be amazed if nobody else gives it a go in the future :(

It seems the audio software market is moving very quickly towards primarily making money from additional content, e.g NI give away Reaktor Player and then sell spark, mouth etc to run in it.

What better way to control your premium content than develop a proprietary format which has to be sold through your own marketplace to ensure you get a cut of everything that is sold, such as RE.

For me as a user, I think it is a disappointing direction the industry is heading in.
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jupiter8
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9388 posts since 17 Sep, 2002, from Gothenburg Sweden

Postby jupiter8; Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:26 am

Reaper has some own VST extensions as well. We did lose MAS though...
http://www.kvraudio.com/wiki/?id=MAS
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pough
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2959 posts since 3 Jan, 2003, from Vancouver

Postby pough; Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:58 am

Here's how I see it: some developers whose products I enjoy will spend less time on products I'm able to use.

EDIT: Oh, and prices may go up because of increased development time and/or the hiring of extra programmers.
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standalone
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5608 posts since 8 May, 2008, from ssssskipping ......... I left you there

Postby standalone; Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:36 am

Keith99 wrote:I think the problem was VST 3, Steinberg messed up the release of that, if it had been welcomed by developers etc. it could have been a new standard


So the blame is on the only ones that offer an open format...
Keith99
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1074 posts since 15 Mar, 2007, from Yorkshire, England

Postby Keith99; Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:41 am

I would not say 'blame' no, they just misjudged the release as can be seen by the slow adoption. I am very much behind the VST format as the standard myself.
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Postby gpunk; Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:51 am

standalone wrote:
Keith99 wrote:I think the problem was VST 3, Steinberg messed up the release of that, if it had been welcomed by developers etc. it could have been a new standard


So the blame is on the only ones that offer an open format...


They aren't the only open format, just the most widely accepted.
VariKusBrainZ
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:54 am

Just say no!!
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standalone
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5608 posts since 8 May, 2008, from ssssskipping ......... I left you there

Postby standalone; Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:58 am

gpunk wrote:
standalone wrote:
Keith99 wrote:I think the problem was VST 3, Steinberg messed up the release of that, if it had been welcomed by developers etc. it could have been a new standard


So the blame is on the only ones that offer an open format...


They aren't the only open format, just the most widely accepted.


Open and multi-platform.
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bduffy
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19400 posts since 13 Feb, 2003, from Vancouver, Canada

Postby bduffy; Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:06 am

If only Steinberg had made VST3 less intimidating. What were they thinking?

And I'm pissed that Propellerheads still don't make a VST version of Reason. Third-party plug-ins are mostly irrelevant with ReWire, and I should just be able to use Reason as a VSTi. So much easier. :(
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