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MiraclesJoe · Post by **MiraclesJoe** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:26 am

I use logic and I find the logic de-esser absolutely aweful. Any suggestions for stand alone de-essers that sound great? The cheaper the better, in fact any free ones that are good?

Thanks.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:29 am

Spitfish is really great! And it's free!

Cheers
Dennis

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:58 am

Unless I'm mistaken, Fishfillets (of which Spitfish is a subset) is only PPC. While our hero Urs Heckman made it OS X compatible (almost 10 years ago?), it's not universal binary and so doesn't work on Mac Intel…

Just to check, I downloaded and installed the AU and it doesn't show up in any of my DAWs.

Best,

Joachim

Resonator63 · Post by **Resonator63** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:16 pm

TB DeEsser part of a bundle of nice plug-ins.
It's good and very reasonably priced.
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/5746

Amon1973 · Post by **Amon1973** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:22 pm

Resonator63 wrote:TB DeEsser part of a bundle of nice plug-ins.
It's good and very reasonably priced.
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/5746

Really nice and constantly getting better - I'm usually done with that one (and sometimes Cubase DeEsser). MDynamicEQ can effectively reduce sibilance as well.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:25 pm

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Amon1973 · Post by **Amon1973** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:28 pm

ttoz wrote:problem is TB is vst only, OP uses logic.

forgot it's not AU...

Arglebargle · Post by **Arglebargle** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:28 pm

honestly, I just use a multiband compressor.

Resonator63 · Post by **Resonator63** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:31 pm

Amon1973 wrote:
ttoz wrote:problem is TB is vst only, OP uses logic.
forgot it's not AU...

Same here

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:37 pm

In the "real" world if there is a large enough budget (and thus time) you simply automate every single 'ess' sound. Usually with volume + EQ. It's tedious and it takes some time, sometimes a whole day if you have tons of vocal takes, but the results are superior to even the best de-esser out there.

Having said that, it might be worth exploring Voxengo Voxformer which includes a very flexible de-esser section. All new voxengo plugins are AU!

If you need a de-esser for hihats or drum overheads then I think the voxengo one will do just fine. You can also use logic's built in multiband very effectively (or the normal compressor and it's sidechain, like ttoz said).

Cheers!
bManic

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:24 pm

Just for the record, there are (at least) two ways to host VSTs as AUs, in Logic for instance: either Plogue Bidule or DDMF Meta Plugin (just updated to v. 2.2, btw).

/Joachim

Amon1973 · Post by **Amon1973** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:31 pm

bmanic wrote:In the "real" world if there is a large enough budget (and thus time) you simply automate every single 'ess' sound. Usually with volume + EQ.

Or you can edit / process offline - the way I go when DeEssers don't deliver satisfying results (just my personal preference, of course).
I tend to avoid multiband / dyn EQ to spare some CPU, can be a pain if you apply them to many tracks.

barreltone · Post by **barreltone** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:07 pm

I've had the hardest time finding an affordable, usable de-essers in AU format.

I grabbed the Waves De-esser when it was on major sale a few months ago.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:21 pm

Never been a fan of the regular Waves De-Esser, but I love the Rennaissance De-Esser and it's pretty affordable. That, and Eiosis E2 (not cheap) are my go-to de-essers. I just with that Eiosis would get with the times and release a 64-bit version.

Vectorman · Post by **Vectorman** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:20 pm

bmanic wrote:In the "real" world if there is a large enough budget (and thus time) you simply automate every single 'ess' sound. Usually with volume + EQ. It's tedious and it takes some time, sometimes a whole day if you have tons of vocal takes, but the results are superior to even the best de-esser out there.

Cheers!
bManic

Yep. I use Eiosis E2 and I think back when I bought it, I was hoping (unrealistically, I guess) for something good enough to be a "set it and forget it" kind of thing to largely eliminate the tedious process of drawing volume dips on sibilants. Ain't so...it gets the job done partway but I still have to go in and manually reduce a lot of the sibilants even further.

De-essers. Which are the best ones?