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V-Control Pro and Logic 9!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:45 am reply with quote
Wow this is good! Probably the most expensive app I have bought but the amount of control it provides in Logic is awesome and still miles cheaper than a full Mackie style thing which it not only replaces but betters. Check out the video on the site:

http://www.neyrinck.com/v-control-pro

You can control pretty much everything with a graphical interface that matches Logic beautifully and you can even put a plugin interface onto your iPad screen and manipulate it - works with Logics own instruments and fx and third party plugins - I've been using it with Sculpture's morphing and Alchemy's remix pad and the control is very smooth (you can even isolate and zoom into the interface element you want to control)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:01 am reply with quote
Wish this was on sale!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:11 am reply with quote
I'm going to try it in Studio One and Reaper too - they have just added support for these so it might not be as great as in Logic (personally I think Reaper's support for control surfaces is its weakest area)

Both these use a generic control surface based on the Mackie Control though - whereas Logic uses Osc and that might be better anyway

This is the generic interface - I wish there was a Reaper skin that looked this good - notice it even has a ribbon for scrub which is awesome:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:46 am reply with quote
agree with you about Reaper, although I think osc is in beta at the moment, which could massively improve things for ipad owners.

http://www.reaper.fm/sdk/osc/osc.php

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=98673

Seeing you on this thread reminds me (completely off topic), how are you using KP and/or Lemur with Kore... come up with any handy templates or approaches?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:06 am reply with quote
Thanks for the info. Was looking at this a few of days ago, but unsure due to the relatively high price. sounds like it might be worth it ...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:40 pm reply with quote
More than a few of us use it here. It is great, we featured it as iKlip App of the Week very early on and I want to re-feature it when V-Window was introduced because that's simply bad ass. It is worth the money if you sometimes work alone in the studio. I thought I just needed transport and could just use the Cubase iPhone app blown up for that, but this is just amazing in comparison. Obviously it works well with Cubase or I wouldn't be gushing about it, since that's my main host.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:09 pm reply with quote
stutter wrote:
agree with you about Reaper, although I think osc is in beta at the moment, which could massively improve things for ipad owners.

http://www.reaper.fm/sdk/osc/osc.php

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=98673

Seeing you on this thread reminds me (completely off topic), how are you using KP and/or Lemur with Kore... come up with any handy templates or approaches?


I didn't know that - since moving to a Mac I haven't used Reaper as I have Logic but it's still on my Windows laptop so I should check it out. So at the moment is Kore, I haven't got round to setting it up on my Mac yet and am still thinking about it - one problem is on the Mac I had to install the updated non Kore compatible versions of Absynth, Massive and FM8 as the previous versions didn't work on Lion and I'm concerned Kore would also have problems so I might just keep my Windows laptop on hold to keep running Kore. So I'm not really using KP and Lemur with Kore as they just run so much better on a Mac using CoreAudi, Midi and OSc - on Windows it was always a pain to set up. I did play around for a while with the Reaktor ensemble by Twisted Tools that converts OSC into Midi as it has a template for Kore and it seemed to work OK.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:14 pm reply with quote
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:
More than a few of us use it here. It is great, we featured it as iKlip App of the Week very early on and I want to re-feature it when V-Window was introduced because that's simply bad ass. It is worth the money if you sometimes work alone in the studio. I thought I just needed transport and could just use the Cubase iPhone app blown up for that, but this is just amazing in comparison. Obviously it works well with Cubase or I wouldn't be gushing about it, since that's my main host.


Yeah it seems to have a good template for Cubase - again one that is customised for the Cubase interface like the Logic one. Looks like the ProTools one is also custom built, but so far the rest use the generic controller. I've not managed to get it to work in Studio One v2 though, it says it supports Studio One but perhaps not version 2 yet?

The V-Window is just amazing - what a clever idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:29 pm reply with quote
This looks great, thanks for sharing. I was considering the Lemur app for a while but this looks like it will be more useful for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:27 am reply with quote
aMUSed, thanks for the reply. Guess you've already reached a point that the discontinuation is affecting you.

I've been using Air Display over an ad hoc network for similar purposes to v-window in this app, and it works reasonably well.

How is the letency with plug-in and mixer control, and when you say you can isolate part of an interface, is that effectively pinc-zooming. So that it fills the v-window?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:15 am reply with quote
Latency is negligible and sync is two way - you move stuff on the computer screen and the faders etc move on the iPad - also it shows all metering etc too in realtime. Yes the V-Window is like one of the display mirroring apps but the advantage is it's well integrated into the controller so it's just like opening a plugin window in a DAW and you can switch easily between several plugins if there's more than one being used. You pinch to zoom into an area you want to see in more detail or you can make it full screen but the thing is once you have done that you can keep working on the rest of the DAW and what's in the V-Window will stay there till you decide to shift view, even if you close it, something that would be harder in the display mirror app.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:31 am reply with quote
aMUSEd wrote:
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:
More than a few of us use it here. It is great, we featured it as iKlip App of the Week very early on and I want to re-feature it when V-Window was introduced because that's simply bad ass. It is worth the money if you sometimes work alone in the studio. I thought I just needed transport and could just use the Cubase iPhone app blown up for that, but this is just amazing in comparison. Obviously it works well with Cubase or I wouldn't be gushing about it, since that's my main host.


Yeah it seems to have a good template for Cubase - again one that is customised for the Cubase interface like the Logic one. Looks like the ProTools one is also custom built, but so far the rest use the generic controller. I've not managed to get it to work in Studio One v2 though, it says it supports Studio One but perhaps not version 2 yet?

The V-Window is just amazing - what a clever idea.

I haven't tried it in Studio One V2 yet, but I just picked up PT 10 so I'll try it in that first (more use than Studio One here because I really only test in S1 but use Cubase and PT regularly) and see. You can drop the dev an email, I know he was responsive when I did a while ago.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:59 am reply with quote
Hi aMUSEd and thank you for this review.

I am considering buying V-Control Pro for using with Reaper in a PC. But considering the price of the app and that Reaper is not the best DAW as to MCU stuff, even using third party plugins, please, let us know how it works in your PC laptop as soon as you try it.

Thank you so much in advance.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:20 am reply with quote
Works fine with Studio One V2 here. I've been using this since last year - I originally bought it for Pro Tools and am now using it for S1v2 and Sonar as well. Works great and it's by far the best $50 I've ever spent on studio gear.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:00 am reply with quote
Nig wrote:
This looks great, thanks for sharing. I was considering the Lemur app for a while but this looks like it will be more useful for me.


I have lemur also, but i think the strength of it is not in basic control, but in the physics models of some of the cool templates. I think i'm gonna get this tonight also. Sheesh, i've spent more on apps than i did on the ipad! LOL, at least theyll all move with me to the next ipad whenever i get it Smile
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