KVR Audio

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:05 am

Something to be aware of :

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/05 ... an_botnet/

How to check/remove :

http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan- ... ck_i.shtml

mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:02 am

That can't be right - "You're typing it wrong" - Mac's don't get viruses, they get shiny profit margins.

D.Josef · Post by **D.Josef** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:32 am

Moral of the story?

Skype will keep the trojans away. Haha.

And also that using an unprivileged user for everyday work goes a long way.

ZINO · Post by **ZINO** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:52 am

Since Apple sees their stocks climbing even if they release Java updates 2 months after the Windows release, good for them! I wouldn't hurry either....

What was this useless ipad app again???

ZenPunkHippy · Post by **ZenPunkHippy** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:54 am

Very poor form for Apple to ignore that vulnerability for so long

D.Josef · Post by **D.Josef** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:28 am

ZenPunkHippy wrote:Very poor form for Apple to ignore that vulnerability for so long

Apparently Apple is reenacting all the mistakes Microsoft made in the late 90s. Let's hope that means they will become as awesome and nice as Microsoft in about 10 years.

(That said, Apple IS kind of awesome with all mistakes included. And if you use an unprivileged user, you are safe from stuff like this.)

ZINO · Post by **ZINO** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:00 pm

Basically after all these I am thinking more and more lately of putting Windows 7 in my iMac (single boot) and be done with all the Apple (i)madness. Sad but true....

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:05 pm

And finally Apple's customers are realizing the ugly truth

. Seems lots of problems with Macs these days...

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:25 pm

MeldaProduction wrote:And finally Apple's customers are realizing the ugly truth . Seems lots of problems with Macs these days...

Oh come now - if they don't mind the anal probe, what's a few trojans between friends?

cron · Post by **cron** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:31 pm

It's a real shocker that Apple didn't patch this security flaw more promptly. I guess they believed their own hype and were keeping their fingers crossed that no new malware would target the Mac specifically. In reality, that was only ever going to remain true for so long when your market share keeps on increasing.

I've a few mates with Apple hardware who all really like their machines, but the two of them who've had to use telephone support tell me their customer service was dire. If this is their attitude to keeping their customers safe, it figures.

To be fair though, they've said face-to-face support at Apple Store locations was generally good.

Monib · Post by **Monib** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:45 pm

UltraJv wrote:Something to be aware of :

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/05 ... an_botnet/

How to check/remove :

http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan- ... ck_i.shtml

Thanks for the Information. I'll apply it to my Mac.

As for Mac vs PC debate, that's 1 trojan for Mac and 1000000000+ for PC.

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whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:51 pm

Monib wrote: Thanks for the Information. I'll apply it to my Mac.

As for Mac vs PC debate, that's 1 trojan for Mac and 1000000000+ for PC. .

Reflects the sales figures then.

cron · Post by **cron** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:56 pm

Monib wrote:As for Mac vs PC debate, that's 1 trojan for Mac and 1000000000+ for PC. .

Don't be surprised if this is the moment malware vendors realise that Apple's market share is huge and the flood begins.

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:16 pm

It may not be a popular opinion, but I don't think it's Apple or Microsoft's responsibility to protect your computer. I believe that if your computer gets f**ked up by malware, trojans or viruses, it's no one fault but your own. I do appreciate that these companies will address issues like this but I don't feel I'm entitled to a fix from MS or Apple if I f**k up my computer.

I have not run any kind of virus protection on my computers (I maintain 10-30 computers at any given time) for years and the one time a trojan did find it's way onto my machine (which was my fault), I was able to get back to work less than 30mins later after restoring a recent back-up. Assuming regular computer maintenance is part of one's weekly routine, I can't see how this could be a big deal.

Again, I don't expect anyone to agree with me on this one. It's just a pet-peeve of mine.

cron · Post by **cron** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:33 pm

justin3am wrote:I believe that if your computer gets f**ked up by malware, trojans or viruses, it's no one fault but your own...

This is often true in the case of trojans, but not all malware requires active user idiocy. Hypothetical case in point - KVR's hosting service forgets to patch their web server, they get hacked, someone inserts a malformed flash/java/etc object into the page and BOOM, anyone who hasn't updated their browser addons for a couple of days is infected. Every virus I've ever had has been down to (I think) a Flash exploit coming from a compromised web site. I've also had worms instantly attack my machine the second I connect to the internet after a clean install of Windows (before Windows Update kicks in).

I agree there's never going to be a patch that stops users running JolieNakedNotAVirus.jpg.exe, but when it comes to plugging known holes in your software I think you are entitled to some protection, and it makes commercial sense for vendors to plug such holes, morality aside.

Finally, lets face it, advanced computer users are the minority.

Mac Trojan storm