Ye, funny that! They never seem to consider that the actual song needs to be worth something as welltehlord wrote:izonin wrote:Not Armin, but Orjan Nilsen! That guy knows how to use the Virus and his tracks are pure heaven.tehlord wrote: I'd hazard a guess that it's because these threads are usually started by people who are already using softsynths, and want to know if buying a Virus will turn them into Armin.
Armin was just a name I plucked out of the aether, it's just an illustration that a lot of people will think they need a Virus as it's the only way to sound like producer X
And just for the record, Nilsen stated that Sylenth1 was pretty much a replacement for the Virus for 'that' sound. I came to the same conclusion 2 years ago when I sold my Ti.
Is it something to bet on a Virus synth?
- KVRAF
- 2930 posts since 29 May, 2009 from New Zealand
- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math.izonin wrote:So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
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- KVRian
- 1355 posts since 27 Oct, 2009
The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B ....jupiter8 wrote:The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math.izonin wrote:So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different.izonin wrote:The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B ....jupiter8 wrote:The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math.izonin wrote:So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
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- KVRAF
- 5200 posts since 17 Aug, 2004
Yuo forgot to mention that Poco has different FX section, reverb is entirely different sounding, filter types are different, sound is different etc. Worth to mentionjupiter8 wrote:The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math.izonin wrote:So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
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- KVRian
- 1355 posts since 27 Oct, 2009
I still think that it will use 2-3 times more cycles than Largo. But, yeah, maybe less cycles than Diva.jupiter8 wrote:I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different.izonin wrote:The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B ....jupiter8 wrote:The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math.izonin wrote:So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
The Motorola DSP56311 does 150 MIPS according to Motorola themselves (up to 270 actually using The Enhanced Filter Coprocessor (EFCOP)) , the dual Freescale DSPB56367PV150 in the TI does 300 MIPS (which is odd since that means the actual DSP isn't faster,there's just more of them).izonin wrote:I still think that it will use 2-3 times more cycles than Largo. But, yeah, maybe less cycles than Diva.jupiter8 wrote:I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different.izonin wrote:The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B ....jupiter8 wrote:The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math.izonin wrote:So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
Compared to the hardware Virus ? I doubt that,why would they do that ?kmonkey wrote:Yuo forgot to mention that Poco has different FX section, reverb is entirely different sounding, filter types are different, sound is different etc. Worth to mentionjupiter8 wrote:The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math.izonin wrote:So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
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- KVRian
- 1355 posts since 27 Oct, 2009
It's difficult to compare chips with different architecture. A 500MHz video card with a parallel processing GPU will run DirectX faster than a 3GHz Intel CPU.jupiter8 wrote:The Motorola DSP56311 does 150 MIPS according to Motorola themselves (up to 270 actually using The Enhanced Filter Coprocessor (EFCOP)) , the dual Freescale DSPB56367PV150 in the TI does 300 MIPS (which is odd since that means the actual DSP isn't faster,there's just more of them).izonin wrote:I still think that it will use 2-3 times more cycles than Largo. But, yeah, maybe less cycles than Diva.jupiter8 wrote:I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different.izonin wrote:The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B ....jupiter8 wrote:The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math.izonin wrote:So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
Yeah i know, however they are not.izonin wrote:It's difficult to compare chips with different architecture.jupiter8 wrote:The Motorola DSP56311 does 150 MIPS according to Motorola themselves (up to 270 actually using The Enhanced Filter Coprocessor (EFCOP)) , the dual Freescale DSPB56367PV150 in the TI does 300 MIPS (which is odd since that means the actual DSP isn't faster,there's just more of them).izonin wrote:I still think that it will use 2-3 times more cycles than Largo. But, yeah, maybe less cycles than Diva.jupiter8 wrote:I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different.izonin wrote:The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B ....jupiter8 wrote: The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math.
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- KVRian
- 1355 posts since 27 Oct, 2009
But you get my idea. The 150MHz hardware will run the instructions faster than the software on a 1GHz CPU.jupiter8 wrote:Yeah i know, however they are not.izonin wrote:It's difficult to compare chips with different architecture.jupiter8 wrote:The Motorola DSP56311 does 150 MIPS according to Motorola themselves (up to 270 actually using The Enhanced Filter Coprocessor (EFCOP)) , the dual Freescale DSPB56367PV150 in the TI does 300 MIPS (which is odd since that means the actual DSP isn't faster,there's just more of them).izonin wrote:I still think that it will use 2-3 times more cycles than Largo. But, yeah, maybe less cycles than Diva.jupiter8 wrote:I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different.izonin wrote: The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B ....
- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
Well yeah but that still doesn't change the fact the the Novation V-Station VST ran fine on my PIV (don't remember how many voices though) which is twice as heavy on the DSP as the Virus.izonin wrote: But you get my idea. The 150MHz hardware will run the instructions faster than the software on a 1GHz CPU.
- Banned
- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
Hey Rob...what is another name for Virus?rob_lee wrote:Now these topics are interesting indeed, a good read unlike the other one on here where people are comparing f**king waveforms of 2 competing synths lol.
Rob
