There are all sorts of analog type sounds that can be hard to tell the difference. Any good VA these days can make some sounds that when everyone guesses there is no discernible pattern and as many people guess wrong as right... So I agree with that point... even the best ears get it wrong a percentage of the time...

However, that someone can make A sound that people cannot consistently tell does not mean that the synth can do so across the range of its parameters and while played and modulated. Turn up the feedback in Saurus past halfway in various circumstances and the sound degrades into extremely harsh digital noise... That result is so obvious that it does not matter the time of day or astrological chart or tea leaves pattern.

haha same here, has the file been removed?

You can say that about pretty much any synth, once you go into certain territory, it will come back with wierd results. One mans noise is another mans gold, trust me, I make industrial

Here, feedback is set to maximum. I don't hear any harsh digital noise.

www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/Saurus/Saurus_Feedback_Funk. mp3

I hear a dark, but textured sound with a pronounced harmonic sweep. Whether one likes it or not is another matter, but it is not an example of harsh digital noise, but it should be according to you. Do my tea leaves leave a better pattern or is the time of day conducive to dark feedback sweeps?
(still, I know that this feedback parameter can give sharp, high frequency sounds, but it all depends on the pattern of my tea leaves).
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Nooooo! It's a WAV file, which does not play nicely in this KVR player (not for me or other people). You need to 'right click' and 'save linked content as'... The above 'feedback' demo is an MP3, just to make it easy to play, but then, set your ears for any MP3 artifacts, otherwise Saurus will be accused of introducing compression artifacts!

pdxindy,

Since I'm now in a feedback loop, here is another feedback sound, this time we are testing Saurus with more parameters:
1. Feedback to the max
2. Filter Drive at 2 0'clock (ie: very high)
3. Tube effect half past nine
5. Resonance at 9 o'clock
6. Cutoff down.

According to some voices in this thread, those who have complained at the feedback parameter, drive, resonance, I should get a very harsh, digital sound, right? Instead I hear an extremely fat, 'woody' and chunky sound, with bass guitar density. Notice the sharp attack as well! It kicks! Here:

www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/Saurus/Feedback_Driven.wav

(This time this is a WAV file as I wouldn't want any of that 'thick' and 'dense' sonic goodness to be lost in the conversion process, so download it.)

The sound's pitch tracking actually disintegrates the higher octave I play! Interesting. I like that as it's unpredictable and lots of fun.

I have got buy more of those tea leaves.
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well i'd like to make a disco/funk 70's track that sounds like it was entirely made on analog hardware.

It is not possible currently.

(diva uses too much cpu)

Theo,
List the type of sounds you are looking for (give examples) and I will help you achieve that (time permitting).

I think bringing in SH2 samples was an unnecessary diversion that was bound to cause confusion. We have enough drama in this thread without your deliberate misdirection.

wow thanks.

I don't know the name of the sounds themselves.. would names of tracks help?

Well sure... you are free to like harsh digital noise. We are talking about analog emulations and recent emulations like Synth Squad can go farther into certain territory and remain credible compared to its analog counterpart. Himalaya claims that Saurus is in that cateregory. I would (and am) argue otherwise.

Hey, no problem... turn up a bit of resonance and then some feedback and here is one example of what you get or worse... (feedback 2/3's)... I get all sorts of awful sounding crap when I use feedback and resonance... I didn't suggest it always sounds like this, but it often does when I am not trying to make it so... I can post examples all day

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Saurus1.mp3

I think you'll get there with Poly-Ana. Use Diva lightly (monophonic like the originals, along with several instances of Poly-Ana and you should be able to get plenty of analog goodness for your cpu to handle.

Filter feedback is working fine here (at least to my ears ):

http://www.maxsynths.com/TEMP/SaurusFeedback.mp3

These are 7 instances of Saurus all using filter feedback in different ways. Maximum CPU hit on my old Athlon64X2: 22%

I think that Saurus filter feedback, if used in the right way can give great results (I really like it on the bells sounds for example and to add something on the filter sweeps, used with modulation is fantastic).

It's also true that the feedback and FM controls can introduce extreme results, which is fine in some situations ("noisy" or experimental music, weird sound fx, etc.).

No it doesn't...for funky 70's tracks.
It only uses too much cpu in poly mode with long release times, or stacking voices are more than 2, other than that it uses no more than others.
I only have a coreduo2 macbook pro at 2.88ghz too, and I can load 5 instances even with a pad included.
There are no poly pads in 70's funk either, so you should have no memory problems.
BTW...One Ping Only can do great funk stuff.
It's not the instrument that matters, it's the playing.
I'm sure Saurus can do lot's of sounds.
The question is, can it do those sounds for the market it's aimed at, better than or as well as the competition?
...or at least that's what you seem to be trying to convey.