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ferdik · Post by **ferdik** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:45 pm

Solid Bass from the Roland Dx 100 (?)

Questions:

1. How to get it in software? Is the FM 8 a good solution for old DX sounds?

2. Spectrasonics Trillian, does it have these classic sounds?

Muzik 4 Machines · Post by **Muzik 4 Machines** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:51 pm

it's yamaha, and fm8 is more than enough to make it

there is a lot more where it came from

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve.sims ... atches.htm

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:58 pm

ferdik wrote:1. How to get it in software?

Importing the sysex file (available for free on the web).

ferdik wrote:Is the FM 8 a good solution for old DX sounds?

Yes, but some guys say it sounds a little bit different than the hardware.

Also check out Sytrus, it's 40 Euros cheaper than FM8:

http://www.image-line.com/documents/sytrus.html

1-2-Many · Post by **1-2-Many** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:16 pm

Implied in the previous post, but worth noting that Sytrus can also import DX7 SYX, as well as other VSTs like FM-Heaven, & Rhino. There may be others...

As far as the value of doing so, check out this crusty old thread - http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/archive/i ... /25717.php

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:13 pm

ferdik wrote:Solid Bass from the Roland Dx 100 (?)

Questions:

1. How to get it in software? Is the FM 8 a good solution for old DX sounds?

2. Spectrasonics Trillian, does it have these classic sounds?

Toxic Biohazard has it, also you can import the Sysex from here http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~mth192/html/dx7.html Scroll down till you find this...

SYX files (1,177,600 byte tar file)
These are system exclusive files, each containing one bank of 32 voices.
These are complete with sysex headers.
The original factory patches are here as rom1a.syx - rom4b.syx.

It's in the original factory patches...

FMHeaven, FM8 and a few others can import them...

In the end I bought a Yamaha DX-21(£70.00 off ebay) and when I compared the DX-21 to the Solid Bass of Toxic Biohazard it does sound different IMHO. Other patches were very similar though.

ferdik · Post by **ferdik** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:20 pm

Thank you everyone!

Muzik 4 Machines · Post by **Muzik 4 Machines** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:51 pm

btw, i'm pretty sure the roland rubber bass on al jv/xv rompler was a "reference"/jab at the yamaha solid bass

ferdik · Post by **ferdik** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:09 pm

breakmixer wrote: Toxic Biohazard has it, also you can import the Sysex from here http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~mth192/html/dx7.html Scroll down till you find this...

SYX files (1,177,600 byte tar file)
These are system exclusive files, each containing one bank of 32 voices.
These are complete with sysex headers.
The original factory patches are here as rom1a.syx - rom4b.syx.

It's in the original factory patches...

Alright, I hit the "File - Import sysex" in FM8, choose one of rom1a - rom 4b.syx and it import only one sound each, Solid bass not one of them. Should it not be more factory presets?

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:39 pm

ferdik wrote:Alright, I hit the "File - Import sysex" in FM8, choose one of rom1a - rom 4b.syx and it import only one sound each, Solid bass not one of them. Should it not be more factory presets?

There are all here:

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:16 pm

ferdik wrote:
breakmixer wrote: Toxic Biohazard has it, also you can import the Sysex from here http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~mth192/html/dx7.html Scroll down till you find this...

SYX files (1,177,600 byte tar file)
These are system exclusive files, each containing one bank of 32 voices.
These are complete with sysex headers.
The original factory patches are here as rom1a.syx - rom4b.syx.

It's in the original factory patches...

Alright, I hit the "File - Import sysex" in FM8, choose one of rom1a - rom 4b.syx and it import only one sound each, Solid bass not one of them. Should it not be more factory presets?

Check what Wildfunk said, I'm not an FM8 user, I used FMHeaven to import them 4 sysex rom1a - rom4b file, each bank should contain 32 presets, so that's 4 x 32 in total, Solid Bass is in their somewhere...

ferdik · Post by **ferdik** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:28 pm

Ok, one more thing! When playing with the Solid Bass in FM8 it have some built in randomness taking away the very first attack on some notes, despite velocity and length is set to equal. Why?

Muzik 4 Machines · Post by **Muzik 4 Machines** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:35 pm

dial down analog slider, make sure osc are set to retrig

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:14 pm

btw, you might want to know that the so called "solid bass" of the dx7 was actually in a lot of productions _not_ made with the dx7, but with the yamaha tx81z, and the preset is called "lately bass". and it's as well in the dx100. so just so you know, in case you would want to import some presets of these two, too...
and btw, if you want the most original sounding conversion, use fm heaven - out of all vsti's thatone sounds closest to the crappy sound of a dx7/tx81z...

ferdik · Post by **ferdik** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:17 pm

Muzik 4 Machines wrote:dial down analog slider, make sure osc are set to retrig

Thank you! Where can I find the retrig option?

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:25 pm

Of all sysex imports I used the FM8 function was the best by far.

I wont citate name of the synths who failed to make proper imports, either because they dont share the same parameters set of the original DX series, either because the import function was inconsistant. I did not tried FM heaven though, so if its the best one, then it is.

Fwiw.

Solid bass from Roland