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hollowsun wrote: Uncle E wrote: hollowsun wrote: One could say much the same for NI. Their licensing costs are prohibitively expensive for the smaller developer.
Do they charge per title or is it simply a flat fee for the right to make Kontakt libraries. Per title AIUI NI charge to those who sells Kontakt libraries with a GUI?! |
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SampleScience wrote: hollowsun wrote: Uncle E wrote: hollowsun wrote: One could say much the same for NI. Their licensing costs are prohibitively expensive for the smaller developer.
Do they charge per title or is it simply a flat fee for the right to make Kontakt libraries. Per title AIUI NI charge to those who sells Kontakt libraries with a GUI?! They charge to license the player. Brent |
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oh ok, it's more reasonnable that way. |
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Ford Prefect wrote: Good thing I'm off all week next week!
Yes - that should give you just enough time to install all those DVDs! |
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I almost bit the bullet and bought Komplete a few weeks ago. I received a nice bonus from my employer and I was in a position where I could financially justify the expense. Then I did my taxes. So much for being able to afford Komplete. What the employer giveth, the government taketh away. It was really sad. ---- This space has been unintentionally left blank. |
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JoeCat wrote: A quick look in the KVR news section, and there are still some non-Kontakt or Kontakt + others goodies floating around, like this for Live:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/passion-bass-by-the-control- centre It will be interesting to see what the BitWig guys come up with for sampling - it looks like they are geared towards being a complete solution (especially with the Max-for-Live-like extensibility), so my guess is something full-featured, but there being no open standard for sample-based instruments, I wonder what route they will take. I'll probably bite the bullet and purchase Kontakt - I own other NI products and have no concerns about the quality, etc. But it's another investment in a proprietary product. JoeCat: I've been using Kontakt for a while - gone through several revisions. What's interesting is that I've bought older versions of softs that have included a relatively ancient version of the Kontakt Sample Player that *still* runs just fine in an UTD WinOS environment (7, Vista). And Kontakt Full reads my legacy monolithic Kontakt Player files transparently; this gives me confidence that backwards compatibility remains at the heart/soul of the product. My guess is that the dirty little secret behind Kontakt is that whilst the feature set has seen some pretty-darn-cool improvements/enhancements, the core code of Kontakt has remained in large part reasonably the same-sure: modules have been added to improve/enhance low-level necessities like disk access; recompiling(s) introduced supporting 64 bit, etc. but the fact that a 5-7 year-old (conservative guess) relatively complex product like Kontakt Player still runs fine says volumes, at least to me. Further: NI's stated policy basically reads that if NI decide to nix support of a product (ex: Pro-53) that the licensee will always be able to Authorize (use) it - I do have Pro-53, it functions on several machines with no problems. Any soft unsupported will eventually die a natural death due to the steamroller of advancing technology, but apparently NI assumes a passive role in it's demise-NI will continue to authorize it, but that's all. FWIW... |
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I've only just recently purchased NI's Komplete 8 a few weeks ago and I must say in my own humble opinion, I'm blown away by the whole thing!
Kontakt is one of those samplers that I have lusted for for so many years and with everything being sold and tagged with Kontakt library in mind, I finally feel part of a group. I also own Yellow Tools Independence Pro, which in fairness has a great library and is also a good sampler but with Yellow Tools downfall and Magix's stagnant take over, it left high and dry. Shame as this also could of been a good head to head with NI's Kontakt. ---- Life's too short to program soft synths, that's why we have romplers. |
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hollowsun wrote: Ford Prefect wrote: Good thing I'm off all week next week!
Yes - that should give you just enough time to install all those DVDs! 3 hours! If you include the time it took to install an additional hard drive and shift files around...half the day! Then when I went to activate off-line...FF in Linux didn't go past the first stage...
Windows 7 laptop got almost to the end and Explorer crashed over and over...
Finally I did it on the Mac Mini in FF...Thank fuk I'm OS agnostic... |
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I would say yes. It seems to me that Kontakt is the way to go right now. Everyone is producing for it and I for one feel its quite user friendly. Seems as though they thought of everything. ---- Bad Cat Media Group,a developer of niche boutique libraries for the everyday composer/producer. |
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Kontakt is the tired burger joint or mcdonalds of the industry,everyones on it,so yes to standard, NO to best sampler features and workflow. I prefer better food thus (mach five 3)is the steak of samplers industry,easily |
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For the average person who is not planning on creating extensive highly scripted libraries that takes months (years?) to create, the market is ripe for a SFZ specific sampler or a decent sample mapper application.
Next to Kontakt (which IS the reigning standard), SFZ is probably the most used format available (and open too). I truly believe that the person/company that comes out with a well designed multisample mapper that easily makes use of all SFZ functionality, and doesn't cost as much as constructor, will have a very marketable product. --Sean P.S. I know you guys didn't expect I'd stay away from a Sampler format thread. ---- C/R, dongles & other intrusive copy protection equals less-control & more-hassle for consumers. Company gone-can’t authorize. Limit to # of auths. Instability-ie PACE. Forced internet auths. THE HONEST ARE HASSLED, NOT THE PIRATES. |
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