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electrox73 · Post by **electrox73** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:38 am

Hey guys,
how do you make that nice and powerful bass that is sidechained to the kick?
I can't find any tutorials on youtube...

It's here at 1:04

Or in Alesso & Sebastian Ingrosso "Calling" at the climax/drop.

Please help me I need it for my song! Thanks

jontah · Post by **jontah** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:51 pm

electrox73 wrote:Hey guys,
how do you make that nice and powerful bass that is sidechained to the kick?
I can't find any tutorials on youtube...

It's here at 1:04

Or in Alesso & Sebastian Ingrosso "Calling" at the climax/drop.

Please help me I need it for my song! Thanks

+1 I'd need some advice here aswell, now I'm only using a sub oscillator to layer underneath the synths with some sampledelay to widen it out and an overdrive. But I'd like to make it more electro/dirty, without affecting what's layered ontop of it.

Tips anyone?

dshults · Post by **dshults** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:41 pm

Sounds just like a standard saw bass side-chained to be with highs cut off. What vst are you trying to make the sound in? Search you tube for saw bass tutorials. You parobably wont find a tutorial for EXACTLY what your looking for but should set you in the right direction.

jontah · Post by **jontah** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:11 pm

dshults wrote:Sounds just like a standard saw bass side-chained to be with highs cut off. What vst are you trying to make the sound in? Search you tube for saw bass tutorials. You parobably wont find a tutorial for EXACTLY what your looking for but should set you in the right direction.

Yep ofcourse it is. And that's what I've done aswell. I even tried layering a subbass that is really wide on the sides with one crispy in mono.

For some reason they seem to get their basses really driving, controlled and thick. It sounds like it's spread out like hell, since it has a huge widening range.

I'm trying with all kinds of plugins, Circle FAW, Massive, Sylenth1, Zebra2, Nexus, etc etc. It sounds like there's distortion such as overdrive or something on the bass aswell. But not sure?

What I wonder though, is how to make a really agressive bassline that is sticky to not be standing out in the mix when mixed in? I mean lets say I'm doing a saw bass, that contains plenty of high harmonics that are really sticky and too bright, it's supposed to lay under alot of other softsynths that make the lead, etc. What would be the trick here? filtering? I still want it to be powerful and thick, but underneath everything else and not too open like in the example.

electrox73 · Post by **electrox73** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:56 am

dshults wrote:Sounds just like a standard saw bass side-chained to be with highs cut off. What vst are you trying to make the sound in? Search you tube for saw bass tutorials. You parobably wont find a tutorial for EXACTLY what your looking for but should set you in the right direction.

I'm trying to make it in Massive and Sylenth1 but I also got Nexus, Zebra2 and Alchemy.

electrox73 · Post by **electrox73** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:13 am

dshults wrote:Sounds just like a standard saw bass side-chained to be with highs cut off. What vst are you trying to make the sound in? Search you tube for saw bass tutorials. You parobably wont find a tutorial for EXACTLY what your looking for but should set you in the right direction.

And I'm also not skilled too much at sound design and synthesis, I tried to combine a saw with a sine and it wasn't the worst bass out there but it wasn't too good neither. So I DO need some advice here...

chrismonday · Post by **chrismonday** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:50 pm

What helped me a LOT was playing fifths. This makes the bass very fat and deep.

You can either play it yourself or set another oscillator to +7 semitones and only play the root note.

Try it: Open Massive, set one osc to saw and another to +7 saw. Lowpass filter fully open. Add Dimension Expander. Play the Calling bassline.

Close the filter a bit if you want it to lay under a bunch of stuff.

electrox73 · Post by **electrox73** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:46 am

chrismonday wrote:What helped me a LOT was playing fifths. This makes the bass very fat and deep.

You can either play it yourself or set another oscillator to +7 semitones and only play the root note.

Try it: Open Massive, set one osc to saw and another to +7 saw. Lowpass filter fully open. Add Dimension Expander. Play the Calling bassline.

Close the filter a bit if you want it to lay under a bunch of stuff.

Really nice! I have:
OSC 1: Saw; -12st
OSC 2: Saw; -5st
They are both routed to Filter 1 only.
FILTER 1: DAFT; Cutoff is at 50%
Sounds nice!!! THANKS

jontah · Post by **jontah** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:04 pm

Mind sharing the preset? I know how to make gritty electrosounds and I'm deeply into sound design, what I do find HARD though is to do basslines that are filtered and not standing out too much in the mix like these you just posted. I'm familiar with modulation, synths, effects and all kinds of stuff, infact I sit with it everyday, creating my own sounds. But honestly it IS really hard to get it to sound tight and massive like this when filtered. If I do a sharp electrobass it will be sticking out too much even with filter on it

ANY tips here on how to get it powerful but still filtered and in the background? I simply don't understand why it isn't blending nicely.

electrox73 · Post by **electrox73** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:18 am

jontah wrote:Mind sharing the preset? I know how to make gritty electrosounds and I'm deeply into sound design, what I do find HARD though is to do basslines that are filtered and not standing out too much in the mix like these you just posted. I'm familiar with modulation, synths, effects and all kinds of stuff, infact I sit with it everyday, creating my own sounds. But honestly it IS really hard to get it to sound tight and massive like this when filtered. If I do a sharp electrobass it will be sticking out too much even with filter on it

ANY tips here on how to get it powerful but still filtered and in the background? I simply don't understand why it isn't blending nicely.

Well I know it's hard, you just gonna find the right sound that fits your mix. There is no universal bass that will work with absolutely everything.
You can just copy my settings that I posted in an earlier post.

And when you want to lowpass a bass, don't use a normal Lowpass (in Massive) but use a Daft filter, that kinda filters it but still lets it be little bit gritty.

I may be wrong, but hey! I'm just 13

and I'm just trying to make some music...if you want, check out my soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/galaxo

Cheers!

morgantaylormusic · Post by **morgantaylormusic** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:49 pm

electrox73 wrote:Hey guys,
how do you make that nice and powerful bass that is sidechained to the kick?
I can't find any tutorials on youtube...

It's here at 1:04

Or in Alesso & Sebastian Ingrosso "Calling" at the climax/drop.

Please help me I need it for my song! Thanks

I dont knowmuch about sound design but i know P46 are big fans of nexus and i think i have acheived around the same bass with just nexus saw bass with a bit of bit crush on it. Which is what avicii does to his basses too if your looking for that sound

bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:23 pm

not sure about sidechaining here. i think they use automation or a plugin. as the effect is very tight and sharp. standard (kick) side chain is usually pretty loose in that respect.

bkwsk · Post by **bkwsk** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:56 am

bronxsound wrote:not sure about sidechaining here. i think they use automation or a plugin. as the effect is very tight and sharp. standard (kick) side chain is usually pretty loose in that respect.

It doesn't have to if you do it right.

bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:55 am

^well true. anyway i'm finding automation or something like LfoTool much more effective. On top of that there's more control on what you do. But that's me.

Rivado · Post by **Rivado** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:18 pm

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