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sinkmusic wrote:Hi, Sean.
I am alwas very glad to read about Labradford or Shellac on KVR (or Autechre !) :love:
♫ The dream of the nineties is alive at Valhalla DSP valhalla, valhalla, valhallla...♫

:D

...I still wonder if I should move back to Portland. Seattle is a beautiful place, but all of the funkiness is gone. Portland still has that going on.

Sean Costello

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Bronto Scorpio wrote:The new mode is simple awesome :)
A very simple Tyrell sound through the new mode: Smooth Ambient Hall
Nicely done, Dennis! Tyrell sounds great - I'm downloading it now. It matches well with LV-426.

Tyrell Nexus 6 through LV-426 = far too many Ridley Scott references. :D

Sean Costello

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I would like to take this thread down to the pub on the corner.. :lol: Thank you guys for keeping it so nice and warm to the heart. [sniff, so many things... I could write a post that would end up far too long :lol:]

I mean TurboSynth! :lol: I used to waste a lot of time with that shi*... on my good old trusty Atari 1040STE.

And I've just finished watching a doco about Bob Moog. R.I.P. Bob. I could just kill myself right now. LOL listening to "cheerful" tunes from Click Click, one of my favourite "moody bands".

Oh yeah, have a look: You won't regret it. Great doco. I especially liked about last 10 minutes. they made my eyes wet. So to speak... Great man. ♥ ♥ ♥ synths and what you're doing to your plugins "Mr. Valhalla". I just like to call you like that. Hope you don;t mind. :lol:

Cheers!
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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When the Techno Viking endorses your product, you know it's going to do well.

At 0:56 into the video :)

Don't trust those with words of weakness, they are the most aggressive

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LeVzi wrote:When the Techno Viking endorses your product, you know it's going to do well.

At 0:56 into the video :)

Where did you find that old video of me?

Sean Costello

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valhallasound wrote:
sinkmusic wrote:Hi, Sean.
I am alwas very glad to read about Labradford or Shellac on KVR (or Autechre !) :love:
♫ The dream of the nineties is alive at Valhalla DSP valhalla, valhalla, valhallla...♫

:D

...I still wonder if I should move back to Portland. Seattle is a beautiful place, but all of the funkiness is gone. Portland still has that going on.

Sean Costello
Oh, mentioning Labradford and ending it all with an awesome Portlandia joke makes me go nuts. Positively nuts. Is there anything you do not master Sean? Maybe except for some deeper knowledge of the Scandinavian art of sounding like a chef straight out of the muppets.

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jensa wrote:Oh, mentioning Labradford and ending it all with an awesome Portlandia joke makes me go nuts. Positively nuts.
Portlandia has reached Sweden? Seriously, I wouldn't have thought that the humor would translate.

For that matter, I don't know how funny Portlandia is for people who haven't lived in Portland. A lot of the jokes (especially the angry bike rider guy) really do seem specific to that place. Maybe this is common in more "bohemian" communities worldwide. Seattle isn't much like that anymore, but Portland is REALLY like that, for both better and worse.

Sean Costello

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valhallasound wrote:
jensa wrote:Oh, mentioning Labradford and ending it all with an awesome Portlandia joke makes me go nuts. Positively nuts.
Portlandia has reached Sweden? Seriously, I wouldn't have thought that the humor would translate.

For that matter, I don't know how funny Portlandia is for people who haven't lived in Portland. A lot of the jokes (especially the angry bike rider guy) really do seem specific to that place. Maybe this is common in more "bohemian" communities worldwide. Seattle isn't much like that anymore, but Portland is REALLY like that, for both better and worse.

Sean Costello
The two first seasons is available on the website of the public television network here in Sweden, and I love it. Some jokes I feel might be more Portland specific (as I don't always REALLY get them) but as you mentioned, I think the series works very well in cities where there's a "thriving" bohemian, or do I dare to say the word... hipster community, which I (un)luckily have just around my corner.

"You don't know Neu??!!" :D

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jensa wrote:The two first seasons is available on the website of the public television network here in Sweden, and I love it. Some jokes I feel might be more Portland specific (as I don't always REALLY get them)
Some of the jokes aren't that funny, so it isn't necessarily a language barrier thing.
"You don't know Neu??!!" :D
I didn't know NEU! when I lived in Portland in 1994-5. The US awareness of the German early 1970s stuff was really driven by the popularity of Stereolab (which I was into during that time) and the later publication of Krautrocksampler by Julian Cope. I was visiting Portland a lot during 1996, and by then was into NEU!, Can, Harmonia, Faust, all that stuff. I also picked up Curtis Roads' "The Computer Music Tutorial," which ended up being pretty influential on my later career.

Sean Costello

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Here I am all backwards again. I knew well about krautrock for a long time. Once, I went to visit a friend, fellow musician and erstwhile promoter. He lived in a small second story apartment. I nearly tripped over someone sleeping on the floor just inside the door at the top of the stairs. He said: try to be quiet, Stereolab is sleeping. It was late and there were other bodies strewn about, but I thought: man, that dude has a funny name. It turned out not to be a dude either.

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From another thread:
gavriloP wrote:BTW I know this isn't about VR or such products but what would be ideal way to use it as a mono verb? Should I just use left OR right output exclusively or perhaps sum?
I would try both summing and left/right, and see which you prefer. Some of the modes will work better summed to mono than others, due to how the outputs are generated.

The modes that should work well with summing stereo outs to mono:

Large Room
Medium Room
Large Chamber
Dark Chamber
Dark Space

The modes that might work better with taking left or right channels out:

Bright Room
Dark Room
Nostromo
Narcissus
Sulaco
LV-426

Sean Costello

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valhallasound wrote:From another thread:
gavriloP wrote:BTW I know this isn't about VR or such products but what would be ideal way to use it as a mono verb? Should I just use left OR right output exclusively or perhaps sum?
I would try both summing and left/right, and see which you prefer. Some of the modes will work better summed to mono than others, due to how the outputs are generated.

The modes that should work well with summing stereo outs to mono:

Large Room
Medium Room
Large Chamber
Dark Chamber
Dark Space

The modes that might work better with taking left or right channels out:

Bright Room
Dark Room
Nostromo
Narcissus
Sulaco
LV-426

Sean Costello
Thanks for the fast AND cool response! :) I usually go for single channel but now this opens possibilities. OF course I sometimes just use some plugin or Reaper's own architecture to make the stereo field very narrow, almost mono. It can work nicely. And when I consider mimicking real vintage echo chambers, I have to use some saturators, EQ etc. to get it closer to the original band-limited and little crushed sound. Also that wall-of-sound trick that I read from TapeOp (It was Bones Howe, I think). he put that tape slapback delay before chamber and mixed it with clean sound, if I got it right. That actually works with plugins too (even though they never say what is the rec/play head distance when they talk about 7 and half IPS, I gather it is something like 115ms or so).

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gavriloP wrote:
Thanks for the fast AND cool response! :) I usually go for single channel but now this opens possibilities. OF course I sometimes just use some plugin or Reaper's own architecture to make the stereo field very narrow, almost mono. It can work nicely. And when I consider mimicking real vintage echo chambers, I have to use some saturators, EQ etc. to get it closer to the original band-limited and little crushed sound. Also that wall-of-sound trick that I read from TapeOp (It was Bones Howe, I think). he put that tape slapback delay before chamber and mixed it with clean sound, if I got it right. That actually works with plugins too (even though they never say what is the rec/play head distance when they talk about 7 and half IPS, I gather it is something like 115ms or so).
For plate reverbs, I had always thought that the tape predelay was along the lines of 15 or 30 milliseconds. I should check out what was done with chambers.

Led Zeppelin has a LOT of recorded examples where a plate reverb has a very long echo applied, so the repeat sounds like a washed out echo. Example: the "bring it back (..ack)" in "The Battle of Evermore":



In ValhallaRoom, you can get this sound in one of two ways:

- Use PREDELAY to get the desired timing.
- Use EARLY Size to get the proper reflection timing (combined with PREDELAY, if desired), with EARLY Send set to 100%. This will cause the reverb to "fade in" at the desired tempo.

Sean Costello

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edit: wrong thread

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Hi Sean, that Bones Howe trick wasn't just pre-delay per se, because he mixed that delay to original signal (so it wasn't all "wet" delay) before it went into chamber. I've tried this with FX chains and it is an interesting concept. Of course I may have misunderstood that TapeOp interview, but nevertheless, if it works it works :)

I normally use small pre delays too but this is indeed different, it brings more "crowd" to the room.

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