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Naw, I just turn it on and start experimenting. Scientific hun? I don't like the blackface at all so far. That is the one thing I've noticed. Gotta go back to pup changing now....... |
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Scuffham amps S-Gear is very nice, and I also like Ignite Amps The Anvil very much. But Amplitube's Fender models are nice too (I've bought few of them through Custom Shop) and they work ok. When I need that certain kind of clean vintage Fender tone for Strat, jazz or rockabilly, that's what I use. But for dynamic and somewhat driven sound, S-Gear rules!
I don't do hi gain anymore, but if I would, I'd probably use Anvil with Ongel's TSE 808 OD pedal in front of it. And LeCab2 or S-Gear cabs for cab impulses. I really like that 808 pedal, it works nice with bass too. |
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Guitar Rig is the best. ---- Has anybody ever really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
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hibidy, AmpliTube 3 also uses IRs for cabs and mics. We just also include some additional priorietary techniolgy that accurately models variable distance and motion. It's the same VRM technology we developed for the Fender Vibratone (and later used in the Leslie cabinets).
You may have particular cabs you prefer, perhaps in AmpliTube 3, or perhaps in a 3rd party IR library or plugin, but it is just a matter or personal preference. A 3rd party IR library is not going to have an advantage over AmpliTube in realism or quality. Even Kazrog states that the purpose of their IRs is to replace built-in cab sections in ampsims that just use an EQ curve for cab simulation. This would not apply to AmpliTube. |
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Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote: A 3rd party IR library is not going to have an advantage over AmpliTube in realism or quality. Even Kazrog states that the purpose of their IRs is to replace built-in cab sections in ampsims that just use an EQ curve for cab simulation. This would not apply to AmpliTube.
Brian, you seem to be talking about Recabinet 2 (now your previous statement about it makes sense too). Recabinet 3 has been out for more than a year and is well beyond mere IR replacement. You should actually try it sometime. |
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If I had every real amp known to man I'd still constantly futz and obsess over the tone |
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Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote: Fender, Orange, Ampeg, Soldano, Seymour Duncan, T-Rex, Jet City are all satisfied with using IK Multimedia exclusively to model their gear. Do they need to broaden their horizons too? :hihi:
sounds like a marketing strategy only. I like Orange models in Amplitube. |
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matv wrote: Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote: Fender, Orange, Ampeg, Soldano, Seymour Duncan, T-Rex, Jet City are all satisfied with using IK Multimedia exclusively to model their gear. Do they need to broaden their horizons too?
sounds like a marketing strategy only. I like Orange models in Amplitube. Holy old thread, Batman. It is more than marketing but I understand when people won't believe it. There are people at Fender, Soldano, and Orange (and now Carvin) who I've spoken to, sat with, or contacted in other ways that are real people really excited about the fact that we were able to pull of versions of their hardware that are so accurate. Whether you write it off as marketing or not, it doesn't change real people who really use this equipment (real and virtual versions) who are honestly excited and extremely satisfied with the results. There are musicians who use the hardware versions of the gear who have been seen smiling and wailing away with the virtual version of whatever amps they like (I recall Jim Root from Slipknot playing through some Orange gear in AmpliTube - though unfortunately we don't model his specific gear yet - with a big grin on his face, for example). Real users get it too - in the case of Carvin, this is one user totally surprised by the V3M in AmpliTube: http://www.carvinbbs.com/viewtopic.php?t=34243 Quote: So I've been wanting a new amp for a long time. I've got a few really nice guitars now, wanted a new tube amp, to 'flesh out' my sound. My only issues with that, are my strict HOA, nosy neighbors, and a wife that gets pretty irate when I try and crank an amp for any length of time.... Went back and forth on it pretty bad for a long time, finally had to face up to the fact that only a solid state amp would work for me, since I need to be able to listen at lower volumes, or through headphones.
I felt like I was settling, but at least I had decided on an SX-300. Last week I logged on, to order a new SX-300, in python, and in my email was an announcement that the V3M was available in the Amplitube program.. Did some research, watched about 100 youtube videos, and decided to buy a Stealthpedal, which comes with the Amplitube software, and check it out. I got the pedal Tuesday, and spent 35 of the 100 free custom shop credits buying the V3M, and the Carvin 2x12 cabinet. (Also bought some other credits, bought a few other amps, few other cabs, but that is not part of this review). Honestly, I don't think I'm 'settling' any more. The tones I've been able to get from the V3M are amazing. Even the cab is the best cabinet out of the 10 I bought.. The cleans are awesome, very 'bell like', the distortion actually sounds like a V3M, and acts like tube distortion. You can even switch the wattage settings on the back, and the differences are very noticeable. Every switch, knob, and button on the V3M is represented on this thing, and they all have real, and measurable functions. It sounds absolutely fantastic, and has it's own character. I can easily tell the difference between the V3M and any of the other amps I bought. Some amps are fairly generic, but the V3M has a voice all it's own. There are a few amps out there that have a very distinct, signature voice, such as Orange, or a Fender Twin Reverb, but those are really one trick ponies.. The V3M will do it all, from clean to insane shred, all while sounding like a V3M... Daddy like. Now Carvin needs to get the Legacy in there. Is it a tube amp? No. Does it sound like a tube amp? Nearly exactly. I've been using Line6 modeling for a while now, and the Amplitube product just blows it away. Even comes with a 4 track recorder, if you don't have a separate DAW. If you are on the fence about buying the V3M, the Amplitube route is an extremely economical way to check it out, if you already have a guitar interface. Software is free for the Custom shop, so it would really only cost 35 credits.. Not too shabby. But the Stealthpedal is pretty kickin too, and for 200.00, a bargain for all it does. Highly recommended. |
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Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: matv wrote: Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote: Fender, Orange, Ampeg, Soldano, Seymour Duncan, T-Rex, Jet City are all satisfied with using IK Multimedia exclusively to model their gear. Do they need to broaden their horizons too?
sounds like a marketing strategy only. I like Orange models in Amplitube. Holy old thread, Batman. It is more than marketing but I understand when people won't believe it. There are people at Fender, Soldano, and Orange (and now Carvin) who I've spoken to, sat with, or contacted in other ways that are real people really excited about the fact that we were able to pull of versions of their hardware that are so accurate. Whether you write it off as marketing or not, it doesn't change real people who really use this equipment (real and virtual versions) who are honestly excited and extremely satisfied with the results. There are musicians who use the hardware versions of the gear who have been seen smiling and wailing away with the virtual version of whatever amps they like (I recall Jim Root from Slipknot playing through some Orange gear in AmpliTube - though unfortunately we don't model his specific gear yet - with a big grin on his face, for example). Real users get it too - in the case of Carvin, this is one user totally surprised by the V3M in AmpliTube: http://www.carvinbbs.com/viewtopic.php?t=34243 Quote: So I've been wanting a new amp for a long time. I've got a few really nice guitars now, wanted a new tube amp, to 'flesh out' my sound. My only issues with that, are my strict HOA, nosy neighbors, and a wife that gets pretty irate when I try and crank an amp for any length of time.... Went back and forth on it pretty bad for a long time, finally had to face up to the fact that only a solid state amp would work for me, since I need to be able to listen at lower volumes, or through headphones.
I felt like I was settling, but at least I had decided on an SX-300. Last week I logged on, to order a new SX-300, in python, and in my email was an announcement that the V3M was available in the Amplitube program.. Did some research, watched about 100 youtube videos, and decided to buy a Stealthpedal, which comes with the Amplitube software, and check it out. I got the pedal Tuesday, and spent 35 of the 100 free custom shop credits buying the V3M, and the Carvin 2x12 cabinet. (Also bought some other credits, bought a few other amps, few other cabs, but that is not part of this review). Honestly, I don't think I'm 'settling' any more. The tones I've been able to get from the V3M are amazing. Even the cab is the best cabinet out of the 10 I bought.. The cleans are awesome, very 'bell like', the distortion actually sounds like a V3M, and acts like tube distortion. You can even switch the wattage settings on the back, and the differences are very noticeable. Every switch, knob, and button on the V3M is represented on this thing, and they all have real, and measurable functions. It sounds absolutely fantastic, and has it's own character. I can easily tell the difference between the V3M and any of the other amps I bought. Some amps are fairly generic, but the V3M has a voice all it's own. There are a few amps out there that have a very distinct, signature voice, such as Orange, or a Fender Twin Reverb, but those are really one trick ponies.. The V3M will do it all, from clean to insane shred, all while sounding like a V3M... Daddy like. Now Carvin needs to get the Legacy in there. Is it a tube amp? No. Does it sound like a tube amp? Nearly exactly. I've been using Line6 modeling for a while now, and the Amplitube product just blows it away. Even comes with a 4 track recorder, if you don't have a separate DAW. If you are on the fence about buying the V3M, the Amplitube route is an extremely economical way to check it out, if you already have a guitar interface. Software is free for the Custom shop, so it would really only cost 35 credits.. Not too shabby. But the Stealthpedal is pretty kickin too, and for 200.00, a bargain for all it does. Highly recommended. Does that kind of thing also remind you of what a certain somebody *whistles away* was like until fairly recently Peter my friend and regardless of names/brands but just about DI'd electric guitar into a computer and getting more than just 'meh it sounds good enough for practicing with but I would not record with it'. I just can not remember that certain somebody/put my finger on any names Its really not advertising but in a 'you should try out the real deals if you like the AT3 modelled versions and vice versa' type way, Absolutely it is but that is what anyone would encourage a fellow player to do, Would they not matv? I have zero vested intrest here/work for nobody but myself. Just saying give things a try before and/or just look beyond what reads to yourself as marketing 'hype' and let your hands and ears be the absolute judge man. The Carvin V3M is BEAST IMveryhumbleHO but take not my word on it nor anybody else's Cheers Peter and best to everyone as always Dean ---- No One Ever Wins, No One Finally Loses, Except The Dead, Under The Sun, They Rot Together With Absolute Biological Equality |
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Yeah, nothing says 'Conoisseur of Tone' quite like 'Carvin V3M'. (and this guy apparently doesn't even have one, but hey, happy is happy.) Nothing personally against you, Peter, but with all the mostly positive word of mouth IK gets I really don't understand why the 'official' overall forum presence here seems to take its cues from Operation Arc Light. Especially when IK's own forums are closed to the general public and heavily moderated for references to the competition. Let the people talk. It's a lot more credible than the three Musketeers singing the King's praise every time. If you're really, truly confident about your product there's no need to chime in every time it gets mentioned. |
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I think I own about 4 but only tend to use:
Amplitube 3 It just does the job. |
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@wasi - I do let the people talk but when it was stated that something was a "marketing strategy" when it was not simply all about the $$, makes it perfectly acceptable to correct in my opinion. I'm passionate and honest about how I feel, I've been a fan before I worked here and I respect many tools and I've also had first-hand experience with people who aren't just making music DEALS they are interested in making music too. We just happen to be lucky to make a good business at the same time doing what we love and working with people of the same mindset. Oh, and there's actually only one less subforum on our official forum open to the general public than there are subforums for only IK users (6 open, 7 for IK users). That was also done to have more general interest music fans able to participate there if they choose to. |
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@Peter: You're referring to the 'lounge' section? Come on. The net effect is the only threads that turn up in a google search are the positive ones. That's slick for IK's brand recognition, but the net effect here, for one, is that every time someone says "Amplitube" anywhere, you guys are all over it like Hyenas. Again, I feel I'm discussing this with the wrong guy, because I find your posts and responses to be weighted, reasonable, justified and helpful. If it was just you I'd be saying "what a great company". But with the three of you tag teaming any ever so remotely related thread it's really walking the fine line to spamming. I mean, even if it actually does enlarge your p*nis, it's still spam. I just feel you've reached a point with your product where humility and self-confidence would make a better case for yourselves than name dropping and and a kind of vocal pride sometimes bordering on arrogance. |
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Seems a lot of slightly neurotic unwritten forum decorum here at KVR.
I see no problem with reps, however many, from IK Multimedia, or any other company/developer, posting into threads. IK Multimedia reps, specifically, make it quite easy to find someone to speak with, ask a question of, or request help from with their presence here, while occasionally being treated somewhat rudely at the same time. Just mentioning so there wasn't an implied total consensus opinion against it. |
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I've given up caring one way or the other. I'll take my jabs because I'm a sarcastic smartass, but I'm OVER getting involved in any of it.
Buy IK, don't buy IK. Like 'em, hate 'em. Who cares. I use their products all the time. |
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