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kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Sat May 05, 2012 8:07 pm

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sat May 05, 2012 8:49 pm

Nice work. It's definitely got a cinematic/OST feel to it. I particularly liked the climactic brass section towards the end.

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Sun May 06, 2012 11:23 am

yeah, it's meant as a cue type thing. thx!

UniformedServices69 · Sun May 06, 2012 10:52 pm

Superb & authoritative percussive elements in this one and a wonderful cinematic composition.
The audio fidelity is a bit dull and dry,but still,a creative tour de force.

-Thom

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Mon May 07, 2012 11:53 am

@ Thom
re: a bit dull and dry... if you can elaborate on that i would really appreciate it (samples? mix?). maybe suggest how to improve it too

thx for everything!

UniformedServices69 · Post by **UniformedServices69** » Mon May 07, 2012 1:42 pm

kcisANDderit wrote:@ Thom
re: a bit dull and dry... if you can elaborate on that i would really appreciate it (samples? mix?). maybe suggest how to improve it too

thx for everything!

Well...sample quality certainly is an important factor,as it sounds like you're working with some budget VST's(but people use what is in their budget and I know good orchestral sounds are pricey).
However though,I was thinking it terms of making the most of the sounds you have to work with,such as implementing a bit more reverb where needed,such as the brass & strings.
In the case of the drum track(s),the amount of reverb sounds adequate,but using some EQ to enhance the reverb trails,would be an improvement.

Essentially,what I mean to say,is that with regard to stereo depth & clarity and fx,this recording falls short.

The brass & strings are flat sounding...almost as if they're monophonic.In addition to brightening it up with EQ & adding more reverb,I would like to suggest that you widen the stereo field by using a combination of a chorus effect and a cross delay effect.

Overall,it just sounds like this song didn't go through any sort of mastering process-which is unfortunate,since so much attention to detail was paid towards the composition.

-Thom

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Mon May 07, 2012 2:22 pm

@Thom
cool. i will try out those ideas

btw, the strings and brass are kirk hunter studios (most recent libraries). i apparently narrowed them too much, for one

thx again for taking the time. very helpful indeed!

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Tue May 08, 2012 4:24 pm

file update above

i widened the stereo on all tracks and compressed the reverb 1-3dB to enhance the detail

i do think it sounds much better. more open/spacious and airy now

thx for listening and the tips!

macmurphy · Post by **macmurphy** » Wed May 09, 2012 8:07 am

a truly excellent composition.

i feel you could still lift the high frequencies a bit more and maybe take a look at easing off the low mids, even so it's an excellent piece

neil.

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:13 am

@Neil

ok, will listen again for that. i guess i should listen to other film stuff to get better perspective first

thx!

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:21 pm

I listened to what I presume to be the second version of this last night and again today. Last night I had to listen surreptitiously but tonight I got to pump up 'da volume. I think it sounds clearer in the mid-high range now.

It's a long road......

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Thu May 10, 2012 2:08 am

seismic1 wrote:It's a long road......

my mixing skills are like a long and very winding road. this one's up to the 3rd mix revision

thx!

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