Zebra modulation range
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- KVRist
- 93 posts since 13 May, 2012 from Canada
Hi,
I'm seriously eyeing Zebra and have a question about modulation.
In Massive I can set the modulation range of the target between any two points. So, for instance, on a knob that goes from 0 to 10 I can modulate between 0 and 10 or 2 to 9 or 6 to 7 etc.
This is a very helpful feature to dial in the sweet spots I'm after.
In viewing Zebra tutorials I suspect that Zebra is limited to modulation ranges that start from 0 and go to the specified range. In other words all modulation must be from 0 to 10 or 0 to 4 or 0 to 7 etc.
Is my understanding accurate or is the modulation range user definable?
Thanks
I'm seriously eyeing Zebra and have a question about modulation.
In Massive I can set the modulation range of the target between any two points. So, for instance, on a knob that goes from 0 to 10 I can modulate between 0 and 10 or 2 to 9 or 6 to 7 etc.
This is a very helpful feature to dial in the sweet spots I'm after.
In viewing Zebra tutorials I suspect that Zebra is limited to modulation ranges that start from 0 and go to the specified range. In other words all modulation must be from 0 to 10 or 0 to 4 or 0 to 7 etc.
Is my understanding accurate or is the modulation range user definable?
Thanks
- Banned
- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
It doesn't need those, because the modulation is done using separate modulation knobs by which you use to move thereby setting it's range by default.
Basically assigning a modulation knob to a parameter, accomplishes the same thing, only in a different way.
Setting the modulation source knob to whatever value, is the range for it's target.
Basically assigning a modulation knob to a parameter, accomplishes the same thing, only in a different way.
Setting the modulation source knob to whatever value, is the range for it's target.
- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
Very much so. There are a lot of modulation options with Zebra, the simplest being direct modulation of a target.iHartBeats wrote:is the modulation range user definable?
For example, almost every knob labelled "..." in a device is a modulation destination. When you set it to a specific modulator (for example, LFO2) the knob label will change names from "..." to "Lfo2". At this point the knob controls the amount of modulation from the source modulator applied to the target. For example, here's a simple setup:

In the above patch I have LFO2 modulating the Tune (pitch) value of Oscillator 1. The display at the top shows I have the knob's value set to -12.00. On the right I have LFO2 set as a square wave LFO. Now when I hit a note I have a poor man's arpeggiator playing 1/4 note octaves. I can set the LFO modulation knob to +12.00, +7.00(fifths), +5.00(fourths), etc...
There are actually many, many more ways to refine the modulation range within Zebra -- I don't want to overwhelm you.
In short I consider Zebra a modulation playground with quite a bit of flexibility in how to dial in the sweet spot.
- KVRAF
- 13124 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
If you have a parameter set to 5 and you apply an LFO to that parameter with a depth of 2.5, the range of modulation will be 2.5-7.5. If you adjust the parameter to a value of 7.5, the range of modulation will then be 5-10. If you apply an envelope to the parameter with a mod depth of 2.5 the range will be 7.5-10 because the envelope is a uni-polar modulation source. If you set the mod depth to -2.5 the range will be 7.5-5. In this way, the parameter itself acts as an offset and the mod depth is a bi-polar attenuator. So yes, you can define the range of modulation.
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
All those "..." knobs are modulation destinations (IIRC). And modulating modulation depth is the next level anyway, "meta-modulation".bmrzycki wrote:almost every knob labelled "..." in a device is a modulation destination.
I guess you meant to write something else, but I'm currently in smug-know-it-all mode.
- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
There's exactly 8 knobs that made me write "almost" -- Pre delay and loop mode for ENV1-4:Howard wrote:All those "..." knobs are modulation destinations (IIRC).

Maybe you can convince Urs to change the not-used label to something like '---' for consistency in the next update.
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- KVRist
- 431 posts since 27 Sep, 2005
Strictly speaking, there IS consistency for Pre delay and loop modes, and IS NO for modulations. Labels under the usual knobs show name of parameter that this knob is tweaking - for example, "decay", "damp". And "Pre delay" mode and "Loop" mode also showing name of tweaked parameter. But "..." modulation knobs show not parameter that is tweaked, but modulation source (Env1, for example). So there is unconsistency that some knobs have labels representing source of modulation ("..." knobs) , and some - destination of modulation (usual knobs), and they all have the same design of knobs and labels.bmrzycki wrote:There's exactly 8 knobs that made me write "almost" -- Pre delay and loop mode for ENV1-4:Howard wrote:All those "..." knobs are modulation destinations (IIRC).
Maybe you can convince Urs to change the not-used label to something like '---' for consistency in the next update.
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- KVRAF
- 24411 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
I have slightly modified my default Zebra skin so that modulations are shown in red, and adujustable envelope parameters remained in black. I also made some reverb labels orange to discern the diffusion section from the rest. It's neat.
Urs, take note for Zebra GUI update?

Urs, take note for Zebra GUI update?

Last edited by EvilDragon on Wed May 16, 2012 4:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 93 posts since 13 May, 2012 from Canada
Thanks for clearing it up, guys.
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Ah of course - I forgot about those. I'd like to see a visual clue as to what the "..." is actually modulating. Lines / arrows / enclosing boxes or whatever. OTOH there are tens of possible tweaks (maybe even a hundred!) that would all add up to make the Zebra environment a more inviting place to "be". Like OSX vs Win7 (ducks). I still intend to make a listbmrzycki wrote:There's exactly 8 knobs that made me write "almost" -- Pre delay and loop mode for ENV1-4:Howard wrote:All those "..." knobs are modulation destinations (IIRC).
Maybe you can convince Urs to change the not-used label to something like '---' for consistency in the next update.
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- KVRist
- 107 posts since 8 Jan, 2008
Hey that is handy, can I get that skin off you by chance? Thanks.EvilDragon wrote:I have slightly modified my default Zebra skin so that modulations are shown in red, and adujustable envelope parameters remained in black. I also made some reverb labels orange to discern the diffusion section from the rest. It's neat.
- KVRAF
- 24411 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Sure, here you go.
https://www.box.com/s/0d255965c3dcd2db2e52
Go to your Zebra2.data folder, inside there you have Data folder. Back up "Images" and "Scripts" folders and unpack the archive there, replacing those two folders.
https://www.box.com/s/0d255965c3dcd2db2e52
Go to your Zebra2.data folder, inside there you have Data folder. Back up "Images" and "Scripts" folders and unpack the archive there, replacing those two folders.
- Banned
- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
Hey...great idea.EvilDragon wrote:Sure, here you go.
https://www.box.com/s/0d255965c3dcd2db2e52
Go to your Zebra2.data folder, inside there you have Data folder. Back up "Images" and "Scripts" folders and unpack the archive there, replacing those two folders.
Thanks.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 93 posts since 13 May, 2012 from Canada
Just wanted to update that I bought Zebra and within minutes had a fantastic Dubstep sound that I'm working into a tune.
Great synth, the possibilities are endless!
And I love how you can adjust the UI size... this needs to be a more common feature.

Great synth, the possibilities are endless!
And I love how you can adjust the UI size... this needs to be a more common feature.
