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heard a rumor equality is coming out with steep butterworth filter option...(answer :TRUE, new eq)
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TheoM
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:08 am reply with quote
any truth to this Dave?

posted here cause would be good for other potential purchasers to know also.

cheers! Thumbs Up!

p.s that would make equality an even more no brainer.

i know i know i haven't bought it yet but it's juts $$$ mate nothing more nothing less.

a $205 eq pack is hard to get living on disability pension! And you will probably do some combo deals with pitchfunk..so... i wait Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:46 am reply with quote
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:39 am reply with quote
???

i read it in the weirdest place, in a forum for a competitors product, that the customer spoke to Dave who informed him he was working on it. I just wanted to know if it was BS.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:05 am reply with quote
There is a DMGAudio EQ with a Butterworth option coming soon, yes.

Not yet 100% sure that the changes will make their way back into EQuality (would likely break control schema/sessions. Not keen on that).

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:11 am reply with quote
if it's in Equick, then i'm in.

But if another eq product again, can you give us a heads up., so i wait?

i mean if i bought equality it would be the combo anyway, without a shadow of a doubt.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:18 pm reply with quote
How about a filters only plug-in with:

UAD Cambridge:

Low Cut / High Cut Filters
Four types of responses are provided: Coincident Pole, Bessel, Butterworth, and Elliptic. The numbers represent the filter order, i.e. Bessel 4 is a fourth-order filter. Each offers a different sound. The responses are more gentle on filters with lower numbers, and get steeper and more aggressive as the numbers increase. The coincident-pole filters are first-order filters cascaded in series and offer gentle slopes. Bessel filters are popular because of their smooth phase characteristic with decent rejection. Butterworth filters offer even stronger rejection. The Elliptic setting is about as "brick wall" as you can get. Generally speaking, more phase shifting occurs as the response gets steeper.

SSL X-EQ:

Critical: 'Critical Damped' filters simulate a chain of passive analogue RC (for high-cut) and CR (for low-cut) stages fixing a behaviour similar to a series of RC elements in vintage analogue equipment.

Bessel: Linear phase behaviour leads to no overshoot or ringing resulting from a sudden transition between signal levels. The drawback is a sluggish roll-off rate.

Gaussian: No ringing or overshoot in the time domain, but slow roll-off in the frequency domain.

Butterworth: Characterised by having a maximally flat magnitude response, ie. no amplitude ripple in the passband.

Chebychev: Characterised by having an equiripple magnitude response, meaning the magnitude increases and decreases regularly from DC to the cutoff frequency.

Wave Arts TrackPlug:

TrackPlug's brickwall filters are implemented using 10th order elliptical filters, with at least 90 dB of stopband attenuation and less than 0.1 dB of passband ripple.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:26 pm reply with quote
antithesist wrote:
How about a filters only plug-in with:

UAD Cambridge:

Low Cut / High Cut Filters
Four types of responses are provided: Coincident Pole, Bessel, Butterworth, and Elliptic. The numbers represent the filter order, i.e. Bessel 4 is a fourth-order filter. Each offers a different sound. The responses are more gentle on filters with lower numbers, and get steeper and more aggressive as the numbers increase. The coincident-pole filters are first-order filters cascaded in series and offer gentle slopes. Bessel filters are popular because of their smooth phase characteristic with decent rejection. Butterworth filters offer even stronger rejection. The Elliptic setting is about as "brick wall" as you can get. Generally speaking, more phase shifting occurs as the response gets steeper.

SSL X-EQ:

Critical: 'Critical Damped' filters simulate a chain of passive analogue RC (for high-cut) and CR (for low-cut) stages fixing a behaviour similar to a series of RC elements in vintage analogue equipment.

Bessel: Linear phase behaviour leads to no overshoot or ringing resulting from a sudden transition between signal levels. The drawback is a sluggish roll-off rate.

Gaussian: No ringing or overshoot in the time domain, but slow roll-off in the frequency domain.

Butterworth: Characterised by having a maximally flat magnitude response, ie. no amplitude ripple in the passband.

Chebychev: Characterised by having an equiripple magnitude response, meaning the magnitude increases and decreases regularly from DC to the cutoff frequency.

Wave Arts TrackPlug:

TrackPlug's brickwall filters are implemented using 10th order elliptical filters, with at least 90 dB of stopband attenuation and less than 0.1 dB of passband ripple.


That would be a really good plugin to have
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:06 pm reply with quote
yeah the ssl eq is all but useless having fixed filter types per band..


only one low cut? just silly and an outrageous asking price.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:33 pm reply with quote
DMG needs a good freebie, no? I use cleansweep quite a bit, but it only has the one type/slope. Maybe Dave could have mercy on us and roll all or at least some of the above plus some of his magic into some cleverly named filter plug-in? Oh, and add resonance where possible (think VOG). Please? Of course any other developers would be welcome to give it a shot. I have a good idea who would win, so why not skip the race and go straight to the finish line? (or maybe it could at least be for people who already have equality and/or equick)
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:34 am reply with quote
Our next EQ will be killer; but there will never be an advantage to waiting - existing customers are always looked after, so there will be a preferential upgrade path for them. It won't replace EQuality - it will be it's big brother and it will cost more.

EQuick is what it's designed to be - a small, quick EQ for fast mix corrections where EQuality seems like overkill. It won't evolve much past where it is, because it doesn't need to. I wouldn't use it on my end chain (whilst I have EQuality), but it's great for sorting little issues out here and there.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:54 am reply with quote
Oh ok thanks at least i know equick is not the target, an all new eq.

Hmmmm.

Ok alot to think about.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:04 am reply with quote
Sorry KO, I didn't mean to leave your out of the praise, flattery and overt favor currying (or is that curry flavoring?).
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:13 am reply with quote
Krzysztof Oktalski wrote:
Our next EQ will be killer; but there will never be an advantage to waiting - existing customers are always looked after, so there will be a preferential upgrade path for them. It won't replace EQuality - it will be it's big brother and it will cost more.

EQuick is what it's designed to be - a small, quick EQ for fast mix corrections where EQuality seems like overkill. It won't evolve much past where it is, because it doesn't need to. I wouldn't use it on my end chain (whilst I have EQuality), but it's great for sorting little issues out here and there.


EQuality's big brother ??????

OK now you got my attention ! lol (You had it anyway but you know what I mean)

EQuantity on the way then Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:21 am reply with quote
thing is what can they possibly do to make equality better that needs a whole new plug in?

i just thought the way it is right now with more freedom to pick filters would make it the *perfect* eq, seriously.

If the duende had a listen option and a free choice of filters, it would be an example of a perfect eq, with it's assortment of shapes, parallel mode and ultra steep filters.

So i am guessing Equality * 2 will be bigger, have the suggested choice of filter per band, and a variety of different filter curves to choose from?

Am i on the right track?

Oh i guess why it would be hard to change equality itself to that degree, to keep project compatibility etc, it would be alot of coding. So a three prong combo of killer eq's makes sense.

Ok i am stating it right here right now., I am going to dmgaudio.com right this second to buy equck and equality combo. Should be done in 5 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:24 am reply with quote
DONE! OMG i finally did it! poor now of course since none of my stuff in MP will sell Laughing

but finally an official DMG customer!

YAYAYAY!!
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