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Nanakai · Post by **Nanakai** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:39 am

Keith99 wrote:Surprised there is a market for more pianos, Komplete comes with a few good ones anyway

Yup. Pretty much.

I suppose it'll be nice to have if/when I get Komplete 9, but I'm sure as hell not buying it alone.

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Wed May 23, 2012 1:00 pm

hibidy wrote:I use piano a good bit (certainly not every song) but it's just too hard to tell how much that would be used for 119 bucks.

Then again, I'm kinda lucky from time to time. I got the kawai piano back when that company was smart enough to use kontakt (I hate the idiotic idea that you need a f**king ILOK "2" for a sample library )

It's wonderful sounding........seems to always fit.

Kawai piano...I didn't know that a sample library was made? Where can I find this product?

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Wed May 23, 2012 1:27 pm

I just think the NI pianos always sound very clean but sterile. The demos of this giant sound the same. I recently bought the braunschweig upright:
http://www.imperfectsamples.com/website ... no_pro.php

And it sounds much more full and interesting to me, for a character piano. For clean grand I'll use Truepianos or Pianoteq.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:02 pm

synchronizer wrote:
hibidy wrote:I use piano a good bit (certainly not every song) but it's just too hard to tell how much that would be used for 119 bucks.

Then again, I'm kinda lucky from time to time. I got the kawai piano back when that company was smart enough to use kontakt (I hate the idiotic idea that you need a f**king ILOK "2" for a sample library )

It's wonderful sounding........seems to always fit.
Kawai piano...I didn't know that a sample library was made? Where can I find this product?

http://acousticsamples.net/keys/kawai-ex-pro

Again though, it was a sample library for the full version of kontakt when I got it and now it REQUIRES ilok (though it might only be ilok one)

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:05 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:I just think the NI pianos always sound very clean but sterile. The demos of this giant sound the same. I recently bought the braunschweig upright:
http://www.imperfectsamples.com/website ... no_pro.php

And it sounds much more full and interesting to me, for a character piano. For clean grand I'll use Truepianos or Pianoteq.

+1000 - since 2 years for me it is the Braunschweig Upright if I can't have/don't need a real one...the 14 velocity layers and the slight imperfectness of the sound fits very well with the stuff I do.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Thu May 24, 2012 2:46 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:I just think the NI pianos always sound very clean but sterile. The demos of this giant sound the same. I recently bought the braunschweig upright:
http://www.imperfectsamples.com/website ... no_pro.php

And it sounds much more full and interesting to me, for a character piano. For clean grand I'll use Truepianos or Pianoteq.
+1000 - since 2 years for me it is the Braunschweig Upright if I can't have/don't need a real one...the 14 velocity layers and the slight imperfectness of the sound fits very well with the stuff I do.

Oh yeah. I actually bought the basic version first. But I noticed that the last couple velocity layers really jumped and the sound changed quickly, but I loved the sound, so I went for the pro for the 14 layer. Definitely helps. And I really like the second Mike position too. It's the only piano I use apart from the modeled ones. Great for a more intimate sound.

peppy197 · Post by **peppy197** » Thu May 24, 2012 7:02 pm

Keith99 wrote:Surprised there is a market for more pianos, Komplete comes with a few good ones anyway

They (come/with/it/types)sound OK but their resonance is short
Larger libraries like that for the GIANT have naturally trailing notes, almost to virtual infinity...

peppy197 · Post by **peppy197** » Thu May 24, 2012 7:05 pm

hibidy wrote:My problem with NI is that those demos ALWAYS sound nice to me. Then you get the product and it's like "MEH". The pianos are especially that way to me. I love the vienna demo........HATE that piano

I'm referring to the addons btw, the actually products are generally good imho (fm8/etc)

Yes. Its advertising the positive aspects, just like you would do in an interview for a job.... your not always so shining...but it sells.

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Thu May 24, 2012 7:35 pm

I actually have the Galaxy Vintage D sample library for Kontakt, which I find to be very good. I'd really like to try the Imperfect Samples Steinway though. It's too bad that there isn't a demo, because I could use something for solo pieces and more emotional songs in addition to the more clean Galaxy piano.

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Thu May 24, 2012 8:05 pm

http://www.galaxypianos.com/the-giant.html

- good to underline perhaps that it is basically a Galaxy Instruments product rather than a NI one

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu May 24, 2012 9:50 pm

Every time I see this I think of peaches.

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:59 pm

I'm about to buy Giant I got a crazy fast internet connection. I've already got Alicia's Keys so can compare them in a bit if you like. I like silly idea stuff a 12foot 2 ton piano sounds like it would be fun to play.

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Fri May 25, 2012 7:00 pm

An in-depth comparison would be great! If you have other piano libraries too that would be helpful too.

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Fri May 25, 2012 7:27 pm

I love Alicia's Keys. I'd be interested to hear your comparison.

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Fri May 25, 2012 7:48 pm

Updated after four hours of testing.

With the right preset choice it replaces Alicia's keys theirs more dynamic range than any other piano plugin I have used. It can sit into any type of music and sound evil or very nice and warm. I've tried it with classical movie type music/ piano and strings, heavy rock and pop. All the controls it comes with allow you to tweak it to fit any song.

I thaught I was going to end up leaving Alicia's keys in some of my mixes at first but now the pink GUI is gone and my music sounds better. With Alicia's keys I was always hitting the keys hard as I could to get the sound I wanted.

You don't need to hit the keys anywhere near as hard with Giant to get the same ballad type sound. If you hit them really hard you hear something that should be kept in a cage and it's nice and powerfull.

The reverbs included are proper convolution reverbs and they really sound great they sound like the same quality of altiverb 6. Theirs a built in compressor any of the controls can be turned off.

You get another version of it that has FX added and missing sample layers that puts it in Omnispheres mad shit teritory. My in ear headphones are making that rattling sound when you put the bass up way too much. Felt like I was using Trilian on acid.

Info of the real integrated piano it was sampled from http://www.klavins-pianos.com/index_en.htm

Listen to Giant http://www.galaxypianos.com/the-giant.html

The Giant: New Sampled Piano Library from Native Instruments