KVR Audio

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Mon May 14, 2012 8:51 am

I don't mind ilok So added the blackhole demo licence to my ilok but there is no download demo on the website.

jensa · Post by **jensa** » Mon May 14, 2012 10:15 am

Kaboom75 wrote:I don't mind ilok So added the blackhole demo licence to my ilok but there is no download demo on the website.

The demo installer is the same as the release installer. You can find it here:

http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/S ... pport.aspx

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Thu May 24, 2012 8:51 am

Comparing Blackhole with Shimmer, I just needed to know if I want the hole...similar settings, I programmed Blackhole first and then tried to imitate that sound with Shimmer, demo starts with BH, then the same piano impro goes through Shimmer::
http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/c ... t-eventide

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Thu May 24, 2012 4:59 pm

Testing Blackhole with one of my Tremor Kits, 4 instances of BH with different settings on the 4 discrete outs of the Tremor Kit
http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/b ... remor-test

Warp69 · Post by **Warp69** » Thu May 24, 2012 5:26 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:Comparing Blackhole with Shimmer, I just needed to know if I want the hole...similar settings, I programmed Blackhole first and then tried to imitate that sound with Shimmer, demo starts with BH, then the same piano impro goes through Shimmer::
http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/c ... t-eventide

I actually prefer the Black Hole - the high frequency decay is longer on Black Hole compared to Shimmer, but Shimmer have longer low frequency decay - I believe you can get Shimmer way closer if you want.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Thu May 24, 2012 5:30 pm

What an awful name for a plugin.

bbaggins · Post by **bbaggins** » Fri May 25, 2012 5:49 pm

Thanks for those comparisons. I did like BH a little better, but not $150 better.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri May 25, 2012 5:59 pm

bbaggins wrote:Thanks for those comparisons. I did like BH a little better, but not $150 better.

It's only 49 bucks difference atm, isn't it? They still have the intro-offer going on. But Sean's prices are unbeatable anyway, he should at least double them imo (duck and cover...)

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:29 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:
bbaggins wrote:Thanks for those comparisons. I did like BH a little better, but not $150 better.
It's only 49 bucks difference atm, isn't it? They still have the intro-offer going on. But Sean's prices are unbeatable anyway, he should at least double them imo (duck and cover...)

This week only, type in the special discount code and get ValhallaShimmer for $99 (regularly $50). That's a savings of -49 dollars!

The discount code is:

simonstockhausen

I gotta admit, I was able to get ValhallaShimmer and the Blackhole plugin to sound pretty much identical in my testing. Which is weird, as I had never heard any Eventides in person when I coded Shimmer. Back then, the minimum entry price was $2K for an Eclipse. I based my Black Hole preset on some sound examples I heard on GearSlutz. The examples were from the H8000, which was probably running at 96 KHz, which is why I used the Bright color mode for the preset. The Blackhole plugin clearly uses linear interpolation, which is the same as the Dark color mode in Shimmer.

Sean Costello

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:42 pm

valhallasound wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
bbaggins wrote:Thanks for those comparisons. I did like BH a little better, but not $150 better.
It's only 49 bucks difference atm, isn't it? They still have the intro-offer going on. But Sean's prices are unbeatable anyway, he should at least double them imo (duck and cover...)
This week only, type in the special discount code and get ValhallaShimmer for $99 (regularly $50). That's a savings of -49 dollars!

The discount code is:

simonstockhausen

I shouldn't eat while reading this, just spat a mouthful of indian-cuisine-cauliflower on the Laptop-screen laughing out very loud

- cool, give me my premium licence asap then!

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:54 pm

valhallasound wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
bbaggins wrote:Thanks for those comparisons. I did like BH a little better, but not $150 better.
It's only 49 bucks difference atm, isn't it? They still have the intro-offer going on. But Sean's prices are unbeatable anyway, he should at least double them imo (duck and cover...)
This week only, type in the special discount code and get ValhallaShimmer for $99 (regularly $50). That's a savings of -49 dollars!

The discount code is:

simonstockhausen

I gotta admit, I was able to get ValhallaShimmer and the Blackhole plugin to sound pretty much identical in my testing. Which is weird, as I had never heard any Eventides in person when I coded Shimmer. Back then, the minimum entry price was $2K for an Eclipse. I based my Black Hole preset on some sound examples I heard on GearSlutz. The examples were from the H8000, which was probably running at 96 KHz, which is why I used the Bright color mode for the preset. The Blackhole plugin clearly uses linear interpolation, which is the same as the Dark color mode in Shimmer.

Sean Costello

It took a few seconds for that to sink in.

I have to admit the demos sound pretty close and I'd be hard pressed to say one was a lot better or even any better than the other. Maybe I thought the Blackhole plug sounded a tiny bit smoother? Again this could be the high frequency decay that's making me think that, but in the end I think Eventide will have a hard time going from their introductory $99 price to the full $199 price.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Sun May 27, 2012 3:30 pm

"Smoother".. Yes, also may findings. But eventually more a settings thing.
I don't think it sounds better or very different than Valhalla Shimmer.

cyphersuit · Post by **cyphersuit** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:32 pm

is blackhole 64 bit yet? can one automate the flashy slider in the middle?

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:45 pm

Eventide said march 2012 they are working on a 64bit version. Around two months ago they said all plugisn will be 64bit by this march but still no sign. Keep an eye on this webpage. http://eventide.com/AudioDivision/Suppo ... pport.aspx

djshire · Post by **djshire** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:07 pm

So when are they going to go dongle-less?

Eventide BLACKHOLE Plug-in Officially Released