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The 'free' Steinberg SLM 128 Loudness meter
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skitchy
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:51 am reply with quote
Please tell me if I am doing something monumentally stupid, but this wont even show up in Cubase 5.5
Right now I am assuming that they have locked it to Cubase 6.5 and above - is that the case?
I moved the .vst3 file into my VST3 directory (it installs in a strange place and you cant change the install path), did a rescan etc.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:58 am reply with quote
Think it's only compatible with 6.5
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:13 pm reply with quote
requires Cubase 6.5 / Nuendo 5 or higher.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:05 pm reply with quote
What do they gain by doing this? What *possible* motivation could they have?
They are giving the plugin away anyway, so why not give it to ALL their loyal customers? I don't get it - is a 'free' loudness meter supposed to make me want to upgrade?
I didn't upgrade to Cubase 6 because frankly I didn't think there was £150 worth of improvements, and a 'free' loudness meter certainly doesn't tip the balance :/ [/rant]
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:13 pm reply with quote
If you were so loyal you would upgrade from the old version?
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:25 pm reply with quote
Yes, because 'loyal' and 'wasting money on stuff you don't need' are exactly the same thing Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:32 pm reply with quote
skitchy wrote:
Yes, because 'loyal' and 'wasting money on stuff you don't need' are exactly the same thing Rolling Eyes


I don't know about that - i.e. the new comping features in 6.5 are pretty cool
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:41 pm reply with quote
Okay, it wasn't worth it for *me*.
Doesn't change the fact that they are locking out a large portion of their customers from using a 'free' plugin - and I can't understand why. Shrug
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:45 pm reply with quote
Sure you can understand, they want more money. They're greedy bastards, it's sad. I don't need any of the new stuff in v6 and it's definitely not a worthy update, they should have called it v5.8. It wouldn't surprise me if someone there actually thinks that plugin is going to push someone to buy the upgrade. That's kind of funny, actually.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:49 am reply with quote
bpblog wrote:
requires Cubase 6.5 / Nuendo 5 or higher.


The fact that it's even locked out of Wavelab, where it's the most suitable for, is just a slap in the face.

Steinberg really overdid it this time. I can agree that they only want to support their "newer" hosts, but Nuendo 5.x is elder than Cubase 6.5 - yet it only works there (according to comments at the official board, and the sh'tstorm there).



I still say that the EBU R-128 measurement is not really suitable for music but broadcast only, and even so, there are plenty of alternatives in both freeware, affordable and highly professional applications.

What comes to mind:
- HOFA 4U Meter, Faders and M/S Pan (Win/Mac Freeware)
- Audiocation AC-R128 (Windows Only Freeware)
- ToneBoosters EBULoudness (Win/Mac, 10 EUR)
- Axis Plugins Inspektor (see: K/ITU - R1770 mode, Win/Mac, 79 EUR anually)
- zplane PPMulatorXL (Win/Mac, 100EUR + VAT)
- Nugen Audio VisLM H (Win/Mac, 449 USD - offers even more tools for correction and analysing for EBU R-128)

IIRC, old InspectorXL (RND and Elemental Audio) also had the ITU - R 1770 mode, but version 1 of it.


So, if you do not(!) need a flashy GUI and a crappy VST3 plugin that locks out pretty much all that is available out there - here's a starting point.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:01 am reply with quote
and once again proving no good deed goes unpunished..
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:30 am reply with quote
No, not this time. Steinberg deserves to be "punished" for a "good deed" such as this. Their insulting attitude towards their loyal customers (heck, since the Atari days, even) has gone too far already, and this is just some more icing on top.
Locking this plugin to Nuendo 5 (which is identical to Cubase 5 from the developer's perspective) and Cubase 6 is just low. Owners who didn't want to pay the ridiculous price for an update that should have been within v5.x in the first place, are basically being told "hey, here's just one more thing you can't have, asshole". Yes, that's really how it is. Word you, Steinberg, you should have kept this shit to yourself, indeed.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:02 am reply with quote
So as Steinberg is soooo bad, how come that I got this plugin working in
Cubase 5.5.3 ? .....
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:16 am reply with quote
losan wrote:
So as Steinberg is soooo bad, how come that I got this plugin working in
Cubase 5.5.3 ? .....
why are you asking how you did something? shouldn't you be posting an answer?
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:33 am reply with quote
losan wrote:
So as Steinberg is soooo bad, how come that I got this plugin working in
Cubase 5.5.3 ? .....

Because you also have a Cubase 6 or Nuendo 5 license, that's how come.
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