Kirk Hunter Studios FAQs, Tips and Peer2Peer Info Sharing Thread

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I guess I thought that the two attack knobs were the same. At least the problem is resolved for the most part.

By the way, does Diamond have round robin? I looked for that information a couple months ago, but couldn't find it on the website.

[KirkHunter]

I guess I thought that the two attack knobs were the same. At least the problem is resolved for the most part.

By the way, does Diamond have round robin? I looked for that information a couple months ago, but couldn't find it on the website.

Yes, Diamond has Round Robin.

[synchronizer]

Okay then---I really apologize for the trouble. I am honest when I say that I've read through your website before, but I supposed that one knob escaped me. All is well though.

Now to change the subject---have found found anything about the TVEC 3.1 flutes that people seem to dislike in comparison to their TVEC 2 counterparts?

[KirkHunter]

Okay then---I really apologize for the trouble. I am honest when I say that I've read through your website before, but I supposed that one knob escaped me. All is well though.

Now to change the subject---have found found anything about the TVEC 3.1 flutes that people seem to dislike in comparison to their TVEC 2 counterparts?

I'm still working on the woodwind issues. It's more involved.

[synchronizer]

I wish you luck on that endeavor. Thanks again!

[P.T.]

Legato Attack control not working properly in Diamond and Pop Rock Strings.

I'm hoping someone can check in their Diamond or Pop Rock Strings using TVEC 3 to see if the Set Legato Attack is working.

I am having trouble with both Diamond and Pop Rock Strings.

This is about the control that is accessed in the Settings drop down.
Under Smart Legato...Set Smart Legato Attack.

No matter how I set the Legato Attack knob the attack always goes to zero when I play a connected legato note.

I am certain that I know how to use this control because it works properly in Concert Strings 2 ans Concert Brass 2.

I could swear that this used to work in the past, but now none of the Diamond or Pop Rock Strings instruments have a properly working Legato Attack knob.

[KirkHunter]

PT, I will check on this later today. The LegAttk can be a bit quirky sometimes, but I'll see to it that you get a response.

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H, maybe if something comes out of this investigation, I'll be able to benefit as well ( recall the playing speed discussion).

[P.T.]

What I noticed is that the Leg Att works properly in CS2 and CB2.

I also found that it is only the smooth articulation in Pop Rock and Dia that does not work.
It works as expected for the Accented Articulations.

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I don't understand what the desired behavior is though. Can you explain, perhaps?

Also, if a fix is found, I hope that it's applied to all of the NKIs... romantic, all first, smooth single, smooth second, etc.

[P.T.]

I don't understand what the desired behavior is though. Can you explain, perhaps?

Also, if a fix is found, I hope that it's applied to all of the NKIs... romantic, all first, smooth single, smooth second, etc.

This works on the accented articulations so try those.

Under the 'Settings' dropdown there is a setting for 'set smart legato Attack'.
This brings up a knob on the right labelled LegAttk.

Use the accent FF articulation.
Set LegAttk to 0 and set the attack knob on the left to 0.

Play a note and while holding that note play another note.
They will both be accented.

Now set the 'LegAttk' knob to 127.
Play the 2 notes.
Notice that now the 2nd note has no accent?

Now play separated noted. Now all notes have the strong accent.

The LegAttk knob sets how strong the attacks should sound on the legato notes.
This way you can have a stronger attack on seperated notes and a weaker attck on legato notes.
It simulates the real playing techniques.

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Oh I see--- It basically allows you to combine pseudo articulations without pressing keyswitches. With the Legato Attack Knob set to 127-with the Accent FF keyswitch, I hit one note and a second, creating an accent--swell pattern. You're right; with the smooth articulation, the second note is identical to the first...no change.

Thanks; I didn't know much about this technique.


Oh, and with staccato set to 127 legato attack, notes in quick succession don't play. Maybe this is because the knob wasn't meant for the staccato notes, but I'm not sure.

[P.T.]

I think that you most likely don't play any instruments.
You completely miss the point.

Try watching some youtube videos of piano trios or string quartets and carefully watch the playing techniques and the sounds that they make.

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...I do notice the problem.

[AKJ]

I start to doubt that the TVEC3 Diamond Woodwind fixes will ever come...

Hi AKJ.

Ok, so I might have missed or forgotten exactly what the TVEC 3 issue was in the woods during the melé of my having to move, break down the studio, and rebuild it from scratch. So gimme the list, and I'll do the best I can!

Hi Kirk,

it's good to hear from you. Good luck with your new studio. The issue with the TVEC3 woodwinds was:
a) a sound quality much worse than with the original patches
b) the referencing of trumpet sounds in the TVEC3 patches (maybe one of the causes for a)

I even posted an example.

cheers, akj

Oh yes, now I remember. I'll look into it. But it's most likely that it's the increased RR that's the culprit. Maybe what I can do is have the RR only engage on the short/fast notes, and leave the long sustains alone? Also, I'll look into the trumpet samples being referenced. It might be in name only, but I'll check.

any news?