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Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Tue May 08, 2012 9:13 pm

himalaya wrote:
Howard wrote:You can get more tonal variety out of an Allpass filter (with plenty of resonance!) in parallel with the main signal i.e. use an extra lane in the main grid. Then modulate its cutoff using a ModMapper in Key mode, to tune the tone of each note.
This is truly awesome! I have tried this now and its immensely controllable and very easy to use! The large pop out window is of great help (initially I thought, "oh noes, am I suppose to dial in all those frequencies using that small window..." , but then I clicked on that 'plus' icon). Another unexpected surprise is the way the keyboard is scanned with realtime feedback of played notes. I'm actually very excited about this set up as it's a gateway to wickedness.

Allpass filters are great tools in general! I simple static allpass in the FX section can do *very* nice things to bass sounds

Cheers
Dennis

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Tue May 08, 2012 9:23 pm

A basic example preset I quickly made: AP Bass Example (You may have to use right click -> save target as).

Play a few notes, turn the AP filter on and play a few notes again

I made this in a few seconds so please don't expect a highly complex patch

Edit: Slightly off topic but also check out MSEG1. It modulates the volume (just a small amount though). It's another nice trick for bass sounds and "punchy" sounds in general

Cheers
Dennis

gonnagiveemachicken · Post by **gonnagiveemachicken** » Wed May 23, 2012 6:39 pm

Check out this sample, vp330 with zebra. http://soundcloud.com/notsureifsrs/zebravp330

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Wed May 23, 2012 6:44 pm

gonnagiveemachicken wrote:Check out this sample, vp330 with zebra. http://soundcloud.com/notsureifsrs/zebravp330

Pretty cool, but this sounds like synth "acoustic" strings and less of that vintage synth string machine sound.

aaron aardvark · Post by **aaron aardvark** » Thu May 24, 2012 3:33 am

himalaya wrote:
groumpf wrote:Ah yes I have it, sorry, very Solina with phasing, but the sound in BJH don't have phasing I think, it's more ensemble, a very thin modulation.
The BJH sound definitely has a phaser (with a slow rate).

Here's my rough attempt in Zebra:

BJH phase string machine
(on playback via this KVR player I get some distortion on this mp3 which I don't get in my host or my media player??)

The sound in Zebra needs at least two LFOs to modulate some parameters, then EQ, to get some mid boost, then chorus, followed by phaser, delay +reverb to emulate the sound in the record.

If you like it I can send you the preset. It just needs better EQ, either to find a more suitable mid frequency for boosting, and perhaps some low cut and I'm not sure if I got the phaser rate right.

I liked that sound! Don't know if you could send it to me by private message, or publicly here.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Thu May 24, 2012 9:35 pm

I certainly can. I just don't know the policy here. Is public sharing of presets allowed via the forum, or are they meant to go in some user section on the Uhe website?

xh3rv · Post by **xh3rv** » Thu May 24, 2012 9:53 pm

himalaya wrote:I certainly can. I just don't know the policy here. Is public sharing of presets allowed via the forum, or are they meant to go in some user section on the Uhe website?

Linking to the preset hosted anywhere is usually how it's done. For the patch lib stuff, usually it's that Bmrzycki is just really awesome about grabbing presets putting them on the u-he patch library pages.

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Thu May 24, 2012 10:11 pm

xh3rv wrote:
himalaya wrote:I certainly can. I just don't know the policy here. Is public sharing of presets allowed via the forum, or are they meant to go in some user section on the Uhe website?
Linking to the preset hosted anywhere is usually how it's done. For the patch lib stuff, usually it's that Bmrzycki is just really awesome about grabbing presets putting them on the u-he patch library pages.

Oh please share.

Even if it's just a box.net link I'll snag it throw it on the patchlib.

I need to do so with the diva pedal stuff from another thread too....

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Thu May 24, 2012 10:16 pm

bmrzycki wrote:I need to do so with the diva pedal stuff from another thread too....

If that's about those pedal bass sounds I posted, then you don't need to do anything with them. I will make those available at a later date, along with some others.

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Thu May 24, 2012 10:18 pm

mcnoone wrote:
bmrzycki wrote:I need to do so with the diva pedal stuff from another thread too....
If that's about those pedal bass sounds I posted, then you don't need to do anything with them. I will make those available at a later date, along with some others.

Sounds good. I think ho66it posted in there too...Need to double check.

aaron aardvark · Post by **aaron aardvark** » Fri May 25, 2012 1:48 am

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Fri May 25, 2012 10:43 pm

Let me just get my stuff together...busy times here (end of year accounts have messed with my head a bit )...hopefully I will be able to upload a few of my first string machine presets (more like experiments then finished presets).

Teezdalien · Post by **Teezdalien** » Sat May 26, 2012 3:29 am

Really interesting and informative discussion in this thread. Thanks to you all.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sat May 26, 2012 9:34 pm

Here you can download four of my first string machine emulations. Treat these as my initial experiments, with plenty of room left for improvements, which will be done at a later date.

In the ZIP you will find:
1. A Roland RS-202 emulation. It's close but not quite there (yet). This emulates only one sound out of several possible in the RS-202.
2. A generic string synth patch, which is not emulating any vintage machine in particular. This is more of a test patch.
3. The Barclay James Harvest patch, as demonstrated in this thread. This has lots of effects to get it close to what I hear in the record.
4. A 'whooshy', spaced-out string sound with a strong phaser sweep + noise.

DOWNLOAD
himalaya Zebra2 String Machines1

I still don't know if I have uploaded the correct versions, so if you find that a preset does not have any modulation wheel or aftertouch assignments, then it is the wrong patch. All four presets should have the mod wheel assigned to filter cutoff, and aftertouch to vibrato.

I've got another 15 or so patches in various state of completion, but none of them use the AllPass filter technique as suggested by Howard, so I'm looking forward to crafting some of these string sounds using this technique soon.

Hopefully you will find these useful.

xh3rv · Post by **xh3rv** » Sat May 26, 2012 10:14 pm

himalaya wrote: I still don't know if I have uploaded the correct versions, so if you find that a preset does not have any modulation wheel or aftertouch assignments, then it is the wrong patch. All four presets should have the mod wheel assigned to filter cutoff, and aftertouch to vibrato.

Modwheel and aftertouch are working as intended. Thanks for the patches!

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Strings synthesizer